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Pray intensely for both parties
this is not the time to criticize but to pray
the prayers of the righteous availeth much.
GOD IS MORE THAN ABLE
satan come but to still kill and destroy
Love and prayers from Indianapolis
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PROPHETESS MY FAMILY WILL CONTINUE TO LIFT YOU UP IN PRAYER. GOD BLESS YOU.
Let us also keep Bishop Weeks in prayer. Let us pray for him and also pray that he be strong and face his consequences.
What the devil intended for evil God will make it for good.
He followed the heart that is within him, something ain't right in there. Sounds like a wolf in sheeps clothing, if you ask me.
It is clearly an attack form the devil. Regardless of the fame or the money they are human and the flesh has over rule the siprit in this situation. Repentance is at hand and seek the counseling that is needed. It is clear that someone was very wrong and someone is very hurt and the shame is over whelming. I am praying for both of them and i pray and know that what ever the problem is, God can fix it. No one should use force as a tool of reconcilation when the parties don't agree. Violence is not the way!!! No man should hit a woman and a woman should not hit a man.
Vick is getting in a whole lot of trouble for the fighting and killing of dogs. What will become of this black, wealthy, TV personality, and abusive man. Will the fact that one proclaims himself as a "man of God" make a difference?
Like I said this man is a loser and needs some time in jail. Maybe there is where God needs his ministry.
Pray for her strength in the Lord. Pray for her estranged husband as well. Blessings on you all.
WE LOVE YOU JUANITA
IN PUBLIC. I ALSO AGREE THAT WE SHOULD PRAY FOR THEM
BUT LETS PRAY FOR THEM NOT AS NATIONALLY KNOWN PROPHETS
AND TEACHING GIFTS WHO WE ADMIRE,RATHER LET US PRAY FOR THEM AS OUR BROTHER AND SISTER IN CHRIST WHO NEED THE THE BODY(FAMILY) TO LIFT THEM TO GOD AND ASK HIM TO HEAL AND RESTORE THEM MENTALLY,EMOTIONALLY,SPIRITUALLY AND PHYSICALLY. AND LET US PRAY THAT SOME HOW GOD WILL GET GLORY OUT OF A SITUATION DESIGNED BY HELL TO DISCREDIT NOT JUST THIS MAN AND WOMEN OF GOD BUT ALL
GODS SERVANTS. PRAY FOR YOUR PASTORS AND LEADERS AND PLEASE REMEMBER ON THE OTHERSIDE OF THIER TITLE AND OFFICE IS A HUMAN BEING WITH NEEDS AND PAIN JUST LIKE YOU.
WAY AND CERTAINLY NOT THE WIFE HE LOVES. I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD PRAY FOR THEM,BUT LETS PRAY FOR THEM NOT AS THE PROPHETS AND TEACHING GIFTS WE ADMIRE,BUT RATHER AS OUR BROTHER AND SISTER IN CHRIST WHO NEED THE BODY(FAMILY) TO LIFT THEM UP TO GOD AND ASK HIM TO HEAL AND RESTORE THEM MENTALLY,EMOTIONALLY,SPIRITUALLY AND PHYSICALLY.LET US PRAY THAT GOD WILL SOME HOW GET THE GLORY OUT OF A SITUATION DESIGNED BY HELL TO DISCREDIT
NOT ONLY THESE SERVANTS BUT ALL GODS PEOPLE. LASTLY
LETS PRAY FOR ALL OF GODS PASTORS AND LEADERS AND REMEMBER THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT TITLE AND OFFICE
IS A HUMAN BEING WITH NEEDS AND PAIN JUST LIKE US.
We dont know what really happnd...we have only herd one report from a policeman.....what does she have to say, what does he have to say? Let us not judge lest we be judged. I feel sorry/sad that this is such a hot topic....we all have things we wouldn't like to be on the daily news or on the internet and for that matter that we wouldnt want our family to know....I KNOW I DO!!!
FORGIVE US ALL GOD>>>we love to run our bothers and sisters in the ground dont we. The same ppl that have prayed us through our hard times and has given us a helpful word now we say CRUCIFY DEM.....God help us all, not just this family.
Remember the "THRESHING FLOOR"? Let us SPREAD out over the Threshing Floor in prayer, insted of SPREADING the GOSSIP. Let us SPREAD the Good News (The GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST) that God is Our Healer, Our Deliverer, and Our Redeemer. It does not remain our business to do anything ealse with this matter but to PRAY IN THE HOLY GHOST. We can have opinions all the day long, but is it edifying?
My People Read This Good News
2 Chronicles 7:14
if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
Galatians 6:1
Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
weva@sbcglobal.net
JACKIE ARTHUR FROM BARBADOS WEST INDIES
TOUCH NOT MINE ANNOINTED AND DO MY PROPHETS NO HARM! Right????
Pastor Carlton Lynch
Secondly this DONT JUDGE crap that you all say. Can someone please explain that to me? I read in the bible that judgment begans with the house of God 1st. So what do yall mean when yall say dont judge? Im thinking you mean don't say anything about what Im doing, but I can talk about you and your family and your bad marriage on the christian gossip line all day but don't JUDGE me. O please. You people are SICK man.
Thirdly: Preachers, Pastors, Bishops, Arch Bishop, Apostles, Prophets, Deacons, Elders, Ministers, Co-Pastors, and so on and so forth STOP, just Stop with the games and gimmecs all that laying on hands and fancy tongues, and talking deep like your the ish and taking peoples MONEY so you can live like a fat cow that aint right. Yall need to stop acting so ****y and sididy and unreachable. Come out of the clouds. Be real, You are not deep. Yall walk around with your noses in the air like youre the ish. YOU AINT NOTHING. How about the next time a person in your congregation says they are about to be evicted You (PASTOR) actually help them out. Pastors get a JOB if you need money and stop swindeling the saints out of thiers.
Lastly: Saints Grow up please. Stop depending on these fake a preachers for your next level. If you want to be blessed, learn how to SAVE some darn money, stop eating out after every service. Go home and stay home and spend time with your FAMILY and not always at church shouting up and down them isles. Give to people who need. Learn how to read your own bible. Learn how to pray on your own, and teach your children. Stop trying to out live the Jones cause you never know the probably struggling to pay that note on that benz. And stop putting all your money in the offering plate shoot pay your rent first.
And stop all that GOSSIPING it'll get you places when you mind your business and live your life, you will be a much happier person believe me I know, I grew up in church to.
Pray, counseling, and a brief separation for Juanita's protection is what may solve this. I belive that the Ancient of Day's is using this to expose the chink that is in the armour of the heads of his house. He's going to start with the head, church, before he attacks the body, the world. He's coming for a pure bride not one that is drowning in blemishes.
It's the pray and push it under the rug mentality that has gotten many abused women killed!
This is Ridiculous some of these comments and opinions. You have truly shown the level of your faith and belief in God just by the things you have posted being judgemental and acting as if you sin not, it is sad! I Proclaim and Declare the goodness of God and I pray in the name of Jesus that the enemy is made powerless, hopless and ineffective in our lives. We need each other saints in a time such as this. Are you REALLY CALLED ACCORDING TO THE PURPOSE OF GOD? Well act like it! Now i understand why some of you cant give God the glory because you are still Premature Christians. This is not to critize anyone but to help you recognize the Attack of the enemy. The Devil hates for marriages to work and he hates for us to strenghen each other, and anyone who has read the books and listed to the messages you know that this is exactly what this couple did for each other. The Devil is angry because this couple has restored many relationships through the powerful words of God that flows out of their mouths. I dare not give the Enemy the power to feel as if he has destroyed these firm believer in christ and you shouldnt grant him the satisfaction either.
The amazing thing to me is that the body of Christ was silent in the face of this character transgression because one of our idols was involved. I initially met Jaunita in 1996, though she has always been a gifted speaker, she has never had the character required of a christian leader.
We are so intoxicated with a person's preaching that we overlook thier living. We certainly must pray for this couple! Pray that they return to a right relationship with God!
Domestic violence, divorce, name it whatever you like. It does not exist aside from sin.
Most of you know that this couple has had trouble from day 1. She is overbearing, Jezebel like (admit it), controlling, self absorbed, covetous, greedy ........... And he is an opportunist.
We must pray. This is not judgement, it is honest assessment. The sooner we mature to the point of honestly assesing where we are, we can move forward.
GOD BLESS YOU KEEP YOUR FAITH IN GOD LOVE YOU
Now the other great wonder, Paula White, has announced today that her and her husand are getting divorced!!! WAKE UP PEOPLE...IT"S TIME TO WATCH AND PRAY!!!
SECOND OF ALL, THERE IS NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE WHERE THE LORD MADE WOMAN TO BE A DOOR MAT. NO MAN HAS THE RIGHT TO WALK OVER AWOMAN MORE LESS PUTTING HIS HANDS ON HER. LET'S JUST PRAY FOR THEM BOTH AND THERE SITUATION.
MILLEDGEVILLE GA
I am sick of all these women who are overlooking the fact that women everyday provoke men to the point of abuse!! Let's face that!! Women run their mouth and talk too much! And it is not biblical. Bynum has never submitted to her husband as her covering, pastor, husband or respected him as a man! Don't tell me not to put the business out! ya'll should have kept your mouth shut! You better pray for Bynum because like David, who prayed for his enemies, you don't know why she's having this problem. It is unfortunate that you women who don't care what the problem is, saying no man should put his hand on a woman, well you probably have big mouths also and if truth be known you don't have a man so you talk all this stuff!! KEEP YOUR MOUTH CLOSED! Can you do that? That's your problem! I tell you what, pray for yourself lest the same befall you . . . . .but for the grace of God, so please be quiet and stop grandstanding on this site and PRAY!!
It's all the poor women who follow her... as an example I really feel sorry for....
My spirit has ALWAYS sensed there is something questionable in HIM..................
Yes, I pray that He pays a price just as JIM BAKKER did, Only A PANSY WAIST, LIMP WRIST PRISSY TAIL MAN WOULD EVER LIFT HIS HAND TO A LADY.................. I DON'T CARE IF JUANITA HAS A STRONG PERSONALITY,,,,,,,,,,,, IT TAKES A WHIMP TO HIT A LADY............. WHY DIDN'T HE WALK OFF AND LEAVE HER SITTING IN THE PARKING LOT............. PERHAPS HE'S ANGRY THAT HE'S BEEN CAUGHT IN THE ACT!!!!!!!!! PRAISE THE LORD.
NOW JUANITA, YOU NEED TO HUMBLE YOURSELF, AND STOP BEING SO EMOTIONAL, WHICH IS " THE FLESH". THE LORD WILL STILL USE YOU, HOWEVER MY DEAR, YOU'VE GOTTEN TOO HIGH, AND YOU HAVEN'T LEARN TO HANDLE IT WITH HUMILITY. GO BACK TO THE PASTOR & HIS WIFE WHO YOU HAVE MENTIONED MANY TIMES, THAT THEY'VE CORRECTED YOU IN YOUR EARLY DAYS. ONE PASTOR TOLD YOU ONE TIME TO "SIT DOWN JUANITA, CAUSE THE HOLY SPIRIT SAT DOWN A LONG TIME AGO."!!!!
PLEASE ATLANTA, PROSECUTE THOMAS WEEKS III TO THE HILT........ SHAME ON HIM!!!!!!!!
THERE ARE MANY, MANY WOMAN WHO PUT ON A FRONT WHEN THEY'RE AROUND OTHER'S, THEY'RE ALSO BEING ABUSED, PHYSICALLY, EMOTIONALLY & VERBALLY............... THEY'RE CRYING BEHIND THEIR TEARS.............. YES THERE MAY BE SOME WOMEN WHO TRY TO OVER POWER THEIR HUSBAND'S, HOWEVER, THERE ARE "MORE" WHO DON'T, THAN THERE ARE WHO DO ESPECIALLY IN THE CHURCH WORLD.................. PRAISE THE LORD, JUDGEMENT DAY IS SURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with the fact that he hit her but something had to cause that. Pushed to the Edge! Tell the truth and put the devil to shame.
Time out for let us pray, those praying cannot get a prayer through because they are wrong and doing the same, time to let the law put in behind bars..he knew what he was doing and had been doing it to co workers also. HE IS OF THE DEVIL! make it plain pentecostal churches I love you but God is sick of you covering for the Bishops who are hyprocrites! It is not pleasing in Gods eyes!
God continue the work you started in these your servant protect them watch over them cover them HEAL them now in the name of JESUS.
alone and I wouldn't go to dinner with him alone. I'm praying for the both of you. Just remember the battled is not your it's the LORD. Do the two of you pray together? How Much? This battle is between GOD, YOU, and YOUR HUSBAND and not your family,friends and church members. Give this to God my daughter.
I know you love them all but this is the time to talk to each other. May God Bless You All. Remember God Loves You and so do I.
What really is important, in the sceme of things, is the fact that if these 2 weren't preachers we wouldn't even be talking about them.
To JC I agree with you totally.
To ME that was J Haygood's opinion, you gave yours. So now what's the difference Sir or Mam. And now my opinion- IT SEEMS AS THOUGH YOU NEED A LESSON ON RESPECT. Just because someone does not agree with you does not give you or anyone else the right to disrepect in such a rude manner. SHAME ON YOU!!!
To Realistically speaking Ok you read in the Bible Judgment begins in the House Whole of Faith you are part right but now return back to your Bible and read Matthew 7:1-5. It does not take a rocket scientist to understand this. I would like to ask you a question if I may......WOULD THIS SOUND LIKE YOU AND SOME OF THE OTHERS WHO ARE SOOOOOO NEGATIVE. Now what is so hard to understand about this scripture. HUH!!!! BE BLESSED AS YOU SHOULD (smile)
That husband of hers should be arrested for hitting her; I dont care WHO started the argument; he had NO BUSINESS HITTING HER!
Also Jaunita is human; she wanted a man at her side; and unfortunately she made the mistake of marrying the wrong guy, like a lot of women do. Plus its hard to find a guy who won't eventually be intimidated or jealous if you are more successful than he is .
You should never marry someone who is not on your level anyway.
If someone were to ask his ex-wife if he was ever abusive to her during their relationship, she probably would say YES.
Anyway this will all blow over in a couple of weeks and Bishop Weeks and Jaunita will go into counseling and get back together and live happily ever after.
THE END !
Anybody who knows Juanita Bynum other than meeting her in a crowded conference knows how she really is! So if you don't know her other than some message she gave, you should be quiet!!!!
Bishop Weeks we the brothers in the church accross this country who are not wimps and scared of their wives, nor are we henpecked, we suppport you in your fustrations. We understand women can push you so that in a weak moment this supposed abuse can happen. We are sorry that this happened to you. If we tell the truth there have been many times many of us had been faced with such fustration with our wives that but for the grace of God and a paused moment we would have done the same. We wish it didn't happen but it has and so we are here for you and continue to pray for you my brother. We also pray that this issue of excessive provocation by women (nobody wants to deal with) will finally be dealt with!!!!
And with regard to her following - it seems to me that Mr. Weeks knew exactly what her following was and how it was built. He voluntarily signed on and, until now, seemingly had no problem living the good life her "TALKING TRASH ABOUT HOW SHE WAS RAISED!" following allowed them to afford.
Lastly, are you REALLY a brother in the Lord? If you are an example of men we should expect to encounter in the church, I'll be sure to stay away from you "Christians". With alleged "men" like yourself - (and you imply that there are many others like you) - our young men - inside and outside the church - have an abominable role model to follow in terms of how women are viewed - abuse and disrespect of women will forever run rampant through our society.
Please post the church you attend. I want to be sure to warn people away from it and it's teachings.
In fact, I only recently accepted the Lord and, this crap is all I've seen since my arrival into the fold. I'm bouncin'! I'd be better off in the world where people don't pretend to love the Lord and I don't expect them to.
NO WHERE IN MY PREVIOUS STATEMENT DID I SAY NOT HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY HAPPEN. I WAS REFERRING TO NOT BEING GUILTY OF TEARING THEM DOWN ANY FURTHER THAN THEIR ACTIONS HAVE ALREADY DONE. MOST OF THE NEGATIVE STATEMENTS ARE OPINIONS AND GOSSIP WITH VERY LITTLE FACTS. IF WE STICK TO THE FACTS I THINK THERE WOULD BE LESS NEGATIVE THINGS TO SAY CONCERNING EITHER OF THEM.
JUST AN OBSERVATIONS.
I totally understand where you are coming from. I thought there were alot of crazy sounding men on here to. What I want you to know is MAN will alway's surely fail us, but the Lord never will. I was sexually, and physiclally abused by a pastor at 12, seen a married pastor have relations with my grandmother at 9, but you know what? My faith has not been shook. It would be nice to see our earthly teacher's lead righteous live's, and not fall. It will happen though. Everytime it does, it just remind's me of why we need God, and not a Bishop to lead us. What I have learned is to not allow my walk to be detoured, based on other's actions. I get really angry when I see hypocrisy, and mean "churchified folk" tearing eachother down. Rest assured, God know's their heart's, and he know's your's. Keep on walking sister, and ask the Lord for discernment on who should be in your life. As a new Christian, it can be scary. God has your back however. Be the light that you are, and the darkness will fall by the wayside. As for these men, and their egotistical comment's... That is on them. Even on these forum's, the nature, and status of our heart's can be shown.
Peace, and love ya'll..
But please don't hold God responsible for it. The bible teaches us that let God be true and every man a liar, meaning, that it is God's word that you must not take lightly when it comes to the issues of life. You will never stop people from saying what they think, in fact this blog was simply designed to allow anyone to express their feelings or strong opinions about a matter, which in fact is not a sin. I also hope that you do not stop going to church because there is a difference between outside and inside. You must have not known, we're not in the church because we are so good, we're there trying to get good, we are crooked trying to get straight, we are dirty trying to get clean. Perhaps you have had the wrong impression of the church, it is God's laundry mat and if you read the bible you will find there is nothing new under the sun. It doesnt justify us but helps us to remember that if God can save those folk in the bible he can certainly save us!
May I remind you of another fact, we don't go to church for each other, we go for God's sake! And like Noah & the Ark, remember there were all kinds of animals in the boat, and you know many of them didn't get along, the lion and a lamb? the snakes and the horses? It was a mess!!! But remember it was God's mess!!
and my faith is that at any time God can clean up his mess when he's ready!!! We belong to him, all of us!!! So that you will know (whether it matters or not) I am a christian Gentleman I shall not attack you back but only ask that you stay encouraged and please don't let people get you to the point that you want to go off on them. There only words in this case, you and I know that it is God who will judge and have the last word, so be blessed my sister, and whatever you do please don't leave the church, God loves you and it has nothing to do with my extreme remarks!!! Love you in the Lord JTT for his glory!
BACK!!!! IT'S NOT JUST DR. JUANITA TIME BUT, IT'S HER TURN TO GO TO A NEW LEVEL . THEREFORE A NEW DEVIL I MUST SAY THIS IS THE BIG ONE. GOD WILL BE GLORIFIED IN THIS SITUATION IT'S MAY LOOK, SOUND AND FEEL DEVASTATING. BUT IT AIN'T WHAT IT LOOK LIKE. JUANITA, THE DEVIL IS AFRAID THAT YOU ARE GOING TO END UP IN YOUR MASTER PLAN THAT GOD HAS CREATED FOR YOUR LIFE. YOU HAVE BEEN PURCHASED BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS AND NO ATTACK FROM THE ENEMY CAN CHANGE GOD ORIDAINED PLAN .(READ JAMES 1:2) I DECLARE TO THE FATHER IN THE NAME OF JESUS YOUR BLOOD RIGHTS OF FAITH AND ENDURANCE WHEN YOUR FAITH IS TESTED. GOD BLESSES THE PEOPLE WHO PATIENTLY ENDURE TESING. AFTERWARD THEY WILL RECEIVE THE CROWN OF LIFE THAT GOD HAS PROMISED TO THOSE WHO LOVE HIM. YES... JUANITA THE DEVIL SHOOT A BULLET AT YOU, BUT GOD SHOOT A SHEILD OF PROTECTION . THE PROBLEM MANIFESTED AND GOD HAS THE ANSWERS. MY TRUST IS IN GOD FOR YOUR NEXT LEVEL OF VICTORY INTO YOUR DESTINY THIS TOO SHALL PASS.
GOD BLESS,
LOVE YA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIQAONfJGEU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIQAONfJGEU
Grace and peace!
Secondly, I could beat up my wife, and all it would merit would be a few column inches in my local hometown neighborhood rag, pulp newspaper.
God, thank you for the respectable man that you have given me, however, please help me to stop taking him for granted. It is wrong. I think that you give him to me to love and respect and not to overpower.
With your help, eventhough he gets on my nerves sometimes (as both men and women do sometimes) teach me how to speak to him with respect. He does not deserve the treatment i gave him sometimes.
I have a good man and i want to be equally a good woman to him.. Teach me to be a virtuoust woman.
yes i believe that bynum has gotten to big for herself. i used to watch her but i have noticed the change. she is not as humble as she used to be.
Does she deserve to be beaten down? I don't know!!!!!!!!! I know sometimes I do. But with God's help, I will be a better wife and mother. As a matter of fact, after reading all of this, i think I am going to take my husband out to dinner tonight and apologize to him for being less than a virtuous woman to him. Then I am going to bring him home and spoil him beneath the sheets. lol lol lol
to men like Mr. Weeks or whoever he is, i apologize for all us woman.
So, Never, Never, forget the first homage it to the Lord.
God is a jealous God, and He will not be mocked.
When we get too far out ... and loose sight of the basics. We loose focus on from where we have come, and who has brought us.
Never foget your first love, for God loved us first.
Look, Love, Love, Love, Love, Love, we search so hard and long, just to hear those terms of endearment. Often times sacrificing, finances, material goods, even our very minds, our bodies and some have exhanged their very soul, jus to drink from the essence of Love, or to be loved, while all the time these are just mere imitations, and it is ours jus for the asking, when we open our hearts and make up our mind, not carnal, but in faith putting God first, It is certain amount of integrity in knowing that God is Love, He lived and died for us all. We must never forget thst basic, in all that get in profit or gain; That we do not lose our soul. In this life's walk.
For when Our Father gave, He gave His very Best: Never forget your first love, Agape Love, The Love that is Above All.
Be Blessed one and all.
Queen
With all my love,
Jesuschick
you false teachers and prophets,to rape you of your money
jakes,olsteen,white,bynum,strong personalities suducing spirits
emotional talent gifts with out repentence motivational speakers
Saints get into your WORD Turn off the TV Seek intimacey with
GOD for yourself, these are not priest that you have to seek after
to get a relationship with GOD.THE love of money is the root of
evil 1st JOHN 2:15 love not the world neither the things that
are in the world if any man love the world the love of the
Father is not in him.For all that is in the world the lust of the
flesh,and the lust of the eyes,and the pride of life is not of the
Father,but is of the world It shall pass away Saints we live here
we have a purpose to tell the unsaved that their is hope in
JESUS CHRIST and a home beyond this life not to compete with
this world as some want to.Let the LORD direct your path and
purpose ,May GOD keep you from the evil one stay away
from wolves in sheeps clothing
From: Bishop Thomas Weeks, III
I appreciate the comments shared by my wife on yesterday and
likewise share my forgiveness towards her and wish her all the best.
I also have had time to reflect on the events of the last two
weeks. And I would encourage all who have already judged me to be
aware that there are two sides to every story.
Because I initially believed this was a private matter, I refrained
from making any public statements about the situation. Even during
the negative press coverage and media hype that has surrounded this
case, my legal counsel has recommended that I reveal my side of what
happened that Tuesday night only at the appropriate time.
Nevertheless, one thing I would like to make very clear to all who
will listen, is to share my sincerest apologies to the every
Christian, and especially to the Global Destiny Church Family, Sons,
Daughters and Partners for having to endure this ordeal. Because of
the method in which this was handled just hours following the
situation, it has not only hurt me, but has damaged the reputation of
Christians around the world. It is for this reason, that I continue to
trust in God while the storm would try to engulf me.
Finally, I'm asking every Christian to pray that God's will be done.
Bishop Thomas Weeks III
Okay, I really didn't think I had anymore to say or any other thoughts on this matter, until I saw this. Thomas Weeks III writes -
"Because of the method in which this was handled just hours following the situation, it has not only hurt me, but has damaged the reputation of Christians around the world." -
Again, it's the fault of "something or someone else" that the reputation of Christians around the world is now called into question.
Mr. Weeks, and yes I address you as Mr., not Bishop, it is YOUR FAULT that the reputations of Christians throughout the world are being questioned. It is YOUR FAULT that people such as myself who are new or young in the faith have been shaken to distrust of so-called spiritual leaders. It is YOUR FAULT that the naysayers of evangelicalism have seemingly once again been proven right.
Do we all deserve forgiveness for our wrongdoings? Notice, I didn't say "mistakes" I called it WHAT IT IS, just outright doing wrong. The answer is a resounding YES. But first we need to acknowledge that it's not the devil's or anyone else who brings us to it. We all DO WRONG - Period! But the way to receive forgiveness is to first ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY. You can only do that out of a sincerely contrite heart. Where is the contrition of your heart?
And to all of the Christians out there trying to make what happened "alright because that loud mouth woman, who cannot subordinate herself probably provoked it" - you are not helping Mr. Weeks heal. You are only tacitly condoning his behavior. If you love him enough, you will chastise him, in love. Isn't that what God does for us? Are we not supposed to model our behavior after our Father?
It's like an unruly child who acts up in school from K thru 12. For all of the years he is under your care, you make or accept excuses for his behavior - "His father is absent", "His teachers don't like him" - meanwhile, he's so bad that his behavior finally takes him to prison; then, it becomes the fault of the system being against him. The reality is, outside of himself, the only other person he can blame for his perdicament is YOU. You who haven't loved or helped that child ever learn to ACCEPT RESPONSIBILTY. You've simply created a grown man who thinks the rules don't apply to him.
And make no mistake, God certainly saw this incident before it occured but, he didn't plan for it to happen. However, for those who love him - he works all things together for good.
Oh by the way, if anyone were to study the facts, they would find that a woman can also abuse a man.
YOU JUST GOT HERE!!! LEARN SOMETHING!!! Where's your bible?
But NOOOO you busy being nosey on this site!!!! You don't want to know about getting closer to God!!! He didnt tell you to be looking to people anyway!!!! The bible says set your affection on things above!!!!!! Bye!!! And Ms. Healed, (or are you wounded?) you need to get off this site also and mind your business. If you been in church for a while then you ought to know better, but this is probably what you do in your church, be NOSEY!!! Do yourself a favor, leave me alone and get off this site because you are not ready for this either!! Is that how you witenss to a supposedly new christian by putting someone else down? You phony!!! GO BACK TO CHURCH!! I won't even dignify telling both of you why I am on, neither one of you are worth it. My background in counseling, and socialogical therapy is not your business! Nor even on your level so let some people who are sharing on this site for therapuedic purposes get on here and save your nonsense!!!
Both you people let it go, you're not ready for this battle, Leave me alone because I havent even begun to start . . . . . And yes! I am for his glory . . . Now you think you got skills, bring it!!!!
From one who has been around the block a few dozen times and seeing people like Jim Baker and Jimmy Swart, I feel we must not allow ourselves to look at these two in that vien.
GOD BLESS
On August 29th, in response to my post, you wrote the following:
"...So that you will know (whether it matters or not) I am a christian Gentleman I shall not attack you back but only ask that you stay encouraged and please don't let people get you to the point that you want to go off on them. There only words in this case, you and I know that it is God who will judge and have the last word, so be blessed my sister, and whatever you do please don't leave the church, God loves you and it has nothing to do with my extreme remarks!!! Love you in the Lord JTT for his glory!"
Now, admittedly, I was put off by your initial post but, once you responded to my own post, I understood your position. After that, I simply resolved to keep my eyes and heart focused on the Lord and not man - as you suggested in your response. The only post I placed after that was DIRECTED SPECIFICALLY AT THOMAS WEEKS AND HIS SEEMING INABILITY TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS OWN ACTIONS.
I'm at a loss as to how this even seemed remotely aimed at you or any other person.
With that said, here's what puzzles me:
What constituted this direct and very personal attack you've made in this, your most recent post? You don't know either of the women you directly attacked here.
To give you an idea of how off base you are - far from being frustrated and "manless", I've been happily married to the same man since I was 18 years old (I am now 46). We have 2 wonderful young women who both now attend Ivy League colleges. If I experience any frustration, it is that frustration of knowing that I don't have the financial means to give every child the same advantages we've been blessed to give our own children.
As far as being a "lady" - well, you're free to question that but, I suppose my husband - an attorney - would be very surprised to know that he'd been forced to escort anything less than "a lady" to countless black-tie and other such events over the years.
I don't know Being-healed's life but, it is very likely that you are probably just as wrong about your judgement of her.
JTT for His Glory, again I'll say, you posted an explaination and I received it. No thought of you or your comment - negative or otherwise- ever again occurred to me. So I am very surprised at this attack. It's un-called for and totally negates everything you posted in your response. While this attack only serves to make me further question the effectivenss of Christianity in the lives of people, I continue, as you said, to keep my eyes and heart focused on The Lord.
It was never my intent to engage in an internet argument. For other young christians and people outside the church, it only serves the same purpose as Thomas Weeks' actions; that is, to bring ill-repute to the household of God.
I'm sorry you feel the way you do JTT FHG, I ask your forgiveness for anyway you may feel that I've harmed you and, I'll pray for spiritual blindness to be lifted from us both - as perhaps there is something we both need to see and learn.
I assume you know that when you take on other people, you thereby open yourself up for the same scrutiny! I will now return to talk about the article at hand when I write here and will revert back to a time before this happened because I don't want to know anybody on this site, just commenting like everyone else, but I'll be darn if I sit back and let people who don't know me blast me!
And yes I am about giving him glory! Rev. Dr. JTT, B.A.,M.Div., PH.D., Esq.
YOU JUST GOT HERE!!! LEARN SOMETHING!!! Where's your bible?
But NOOOO you busy being nosey on this site!!!! You don't want to know about getting closer to God!!! He didnt tell you to be looking to people anyway!!!! The bible says set your affection on things above!!!!!! Bye!!! And Ms. Healed, (or are you wounded?) you need to get off this site also and mind your business. If you been in church for a while then you ought to know better, but this is probably what you do in your church, be NOSEY!!! Do yourself a favor, leave me alone and get off this site because you are not ready for this either!! Is that how you witenss to a supposedly new christian by putting someone else down? You phony!!! GO BACK TO CHURCH!! I won't even dignify telling both of you why I am on, neither one of you are worth it. My background in counseling, and socialogical therapy is not your business! Nor even on your level so let some people who are sharing on this site for therapuedic purposes get on here and save your nonsense!!!
Both you people let it go, you're not ready for this battle, Leave me alone because I havent even begun to start . . . . . And yes! I am for his glory . . . Now you think you got skills, bring it!!!!
I am really disgusted by the fact that this man is now using his website to solicit money "during this difficult time." So now the church folks should pay for his legal defense fund? Give me a break!
I also don't understand the comments on many blogs from folks claiming that people should support the Bishop and how no charges should be filed against him and they should work this out with God. Where in the Bible does it say that we should condone abuse and protect abusers? People criticized the Catholic church when the heads of the church covered up and failed to take any action against the priests who were sodomizing and raping children. I really don't see much difference here and fail to understand the rationalization of why we choose to protect these sick people who defile God's house and violate his children.
What about the humble servants of God? I am sure that if we were to tally up all the fortunes that these ministries are gaining at the expense of the congregations, I am sure it would be in the thousands of billions. Are these churches doing enough in their communities? I think not, poverty and homelessness are still on the rise.
I am not condoning the assault, but there is always three sides to a story, in this case, his, hers and the truth. God is sending out a message to His church and we need to open our eyes to these business ministries and televangelists that are driven by power, money and greed. The truth will always come to light. God is watching and judging, always.
Thus I would look for another church where the works are closer to the bible
Thus I would look for another church where the works are closer to the bible
Thus I would look for another church where the works are closer to the bible
My Bible tells me the, and I paraphrse, " It is better to eat a crust in a paradise than a banquet in a loveless home." I guess a desert could also be used here
if this is a story
Thus, I feel a departure from this results in the violence in this case.
Wednesday, September 19, 2007
Dear Juanita Bynum:
My theology causes me to align with those on the underside of a
society. As Matthew 25 teaches, wherever we can identify the poor, the
abused, the marginalized, and those living under the weight of
structural and systemic injustice, we can find God working on behalf of
the "least of these." This is why my heart goes out to you. Credible
reports corroborate your story of being a victim of domestic violence.
And, if this is true, you have experienced a heinous act that all too
many women are forced to live with and endure on a daily basis.
Having said this, I now must express my concern. I am scared that your
actions in recent weeks are rendering you about as credible to the cause
of fighting domestic violence as O.J. Simpson. Let's begin with your,
er, umm, performance on TBN. While I can appreciate the efficacious
dimensions of prayer and praise, there is also a time for well thought
action and spiritual sobriety.
For instance, I did not understand your illogical and irresponsible
assertions such as "on that ground that night I slipped into my
purpose." You were a victim of domestic violence, period! There was
nothing atoning or redemptive about what happened to you. And all that
rhetorical jargon about not breaking the covenant with your husband and
being spiritually submissive only recirculates the very notions of power
and abuse that fosters domestic violence in the first place. Rather than
doing the "Harlem Shake" to Byron Cage that night, why didn't you use
your platform to present the phone numbers to domestic abuse hotlines
and women's shelters? Or how about providing resources for women who
currently find themselves in violent relationships. Say what you will
about Bishop Jakes' response, or lack thereof, to your situation, at
least he didn't turn tragedy into a praise-a-thon.
But to be fair, I know you may have gotten caught up in the moment. It
was a highly emotional time for you. But this is why you need to be
careful. There are real forces that seek to dismiss the issue of
domestic violence in the church in general and discredit you in
particular. You should know this. So wouldn't you think that making
statements such as "Juanita Bynum will be for domestic violence what
Martin Luther King, Jr. was to civil rights," just might come across as
a little self-serving and solipsistic? Moreover, what is up with not
being able to discuss your story during an interview on Tom Joyner last
week because you had already sold the exclusive rights to Essence
magazine? These sorts of comments and actions only add fuel to the
flames of skepticism for those who already believe that you are more of
a Profiteer than a Prophetess.
But all is not lost, Sister Bynum. Not yet at least. There is still
hope that you won't have to go out like Britney Spears. So allow me to
offer a few suggestions that may help you regain both your focus and
perspective:
First, rethink your desire to be the "new face of domestic violence."
You say this with pride as if you are on a season of America's Next Top
Model. This is neither a popularity contest nor a time to exploit the
situation. Rather, this is a time that you can use your status to
introduce America to the almost one million women that are victimized
annually who cannot hold a press conference at posh hotels nor recover
from their wounds with a deluxe spa package. Lift them up. Tell their
story.
You missed what could have been a powerful, informative and educational
moment on TBN. What if you had told the story of a 35 year old Haitian
immigrant that was beaten, raped and sodomized along with her son in the
Dunbar Housing Projects of Miami while neighbors closed their windows to
her screams for help? This is the face that America needs to see in
order to indict us concerning our culpability and complicit silence. Or
try lending your support to the case of Megan Williams in West Virginia
that was senselessly raped, tortured and maimed by six white
supremacists earlier this month. While we have googled you and Bishop
Weeks to keep up with your drama, these are the stories that need to be
discussed and written about. So shame on us for being all too consumed
with you. And shame on you for not redirecting our attention to the
suffering of others.
Second, suspend your mentoring class and go get mentored yourself. If
you are sincere about your interest in being a victim's advocate, obtain
real anti-violence and awareness training from specialists in the field.
Learn the litigation procedures that are already in place and even the
appropriate language that should be used. There is no need for you to
call your own session of Congress to introduce the Juanita bill, when
you can sign your name and support legislation that advocates are
already pushing forward. Moreover, to be frank, your hyper-spiritual
clichîahrases and homiletic tropes that "move the crowd" on TBN may
prove contradictory and quixotic outside of the very insular world of
televangelism. I would hate to see you on Oprah trying to jump up and
get your whoop on because the "anointing got so' thick up in here." And
if you are going to be a credible domestic violence counselor, you can't
encourage women by telling them that you got "beat down to get your
breakthrough." If you are going to extend your influence Juanita, you
are going to have to do better than falling back to your familiar.
Finally, take a sabbatical from the media. We know that you are a
gifted televangelist.. And we know that you are trying to make ground on
Paula White (trust me, I am cheering for you). But everything in your
life does not have to play out in front of a microphone. You have
twisted, flipped and spun this event in every way possible. Your
credibility and integrity are both on the line, my dear sister. And
times like these call for decorum and tact not a whoop and a homily. Be
still and know that God is still God. And if you handle yourself
accordingly, others will rise up to fight your battles in public. There
are too many who find what happened to you horrible and despicable. And,
more importantly, there are too many who realized long before your
unfortunate occurrence that domestic violence just can't be talked
about, it must be fought against.
Be blessed, Juanita.
One Luv,
JLW
P.S. Please scrap the book idea
The First Century Church was given supernatural power in order to evangelize the world, and evangelize the world they most certainly did! From tiny Israel to Asia, Europe and around the world, this revival company became a channel through which the message of salvation was given to a lost and helpless humanity. The Book of Acts records the massive revival that swept the known world by those whose souls the Holy Spirit had set on fire. Millions were swept into the kingdom of Heaven because of their powerful witness.
This Holy Spirit - endued group aroused the fury of Hell. All-out-war was savagely waged against them. The Hebrews 11 records, "....(They) were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection: And others had trials of cruel mockings and scourgings, and, moreover of bonds and imprisonment: They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, they were tried by temptation, they were killed with the sword. They went from place to place in sheepskins or goatskins, enduring want, oppression and cruelty ... of whom the world was not worthy; in deserts wandering, and in mountains, and in caves, and in the holes of the earth..." The more the dark forces of Hell killed, the more the Early Church grew. What a legacy drenched in their blood they have left for the church of the 21st Century!
What have the Pentecostals of the 21st Century done with this legacy? For many of their televangelists, the message is PROSPERITY! The message of self-sacrifice, of giving all for the salvation of others has been replaced with "seed faith," a self-centered creed that encourages people to give to God (or their ministries) in order to get back even more. It is an appeal to one of the baser elements of the fallen nature of man......greed.
Michael Scott Horton, teacher at a seminary in California, made this observation:
"Some of these people are charlatans. Others are honestly dedicated to one of the most abhorrent errors in religious theology."
Quite a spectacle on television today! On our tv screens, we see miracle water being offered that will cure all, books, tapes, dvds for sale full of secret scriptural codes on how to get rich and prosper, and televangelists' appealing to give to their "ministry" with a certainty to receive much more financial gain in return. While "speaking in tongues," a female televangelist "prophetically" stated that God had given her the number 777. She told the people who were viewing that "God told her" that they needed to quickly give to that particular "ministry" money according to those set of numbers.... $777, $7777, and on up. They were promised a great return on their "seed faith investment." Another televangelist labeled people as stupid who question his prosperity doctrine. He declared, "Hell will be full of these stupid people." He further stated, " I can handle the flames (of Hell) but not being with stupid people for eternity."
"Can't pay your bills, you rent, utilities, and medical bills? The appeal is, "take what you have and send it in right away!! Within a few days, you will receive a hundred-fold, more than enough to pay all of those bills! It is like playing a "divine lottery" in the hopes to get rich quick. Sadly, gullible people give by the millions.
Quite a contrast between the early Pentecostals and those of the 21st Century.
The first were revolutionaries filled with a holy fire to bring the message "Jesus Saves" to a lost, dying generation. They counted it an honor to give away all and expect nothing in return in order to save a lost soul.
Beatings, imprisonment, mockings and even death for the sake of the Gospel were signs of spiritual prosperity for them.
Designer clothes, upscale homes, sleek cars, huge bank accounts and living the good life were not measures of spiritual success. Instead, sheep skin and goatskin rags, wandering in the desert, mountains and living in caves and the holes of the earth, suffering and even death for the sake of Christ were evidences of real prosperity for them. Hell feared and trembled before them. Satan sought to destroy them. Selfless sacrifice was the banner that was raised high over them. Multiple millions were transformed by their message. The world was turned upside down by them.
What about this latter group of Pentecostals?
Their message is "gain is a sign of Godliness." They invite you to give sacrificially in order to be wealthy. Wear the finest, drive the best, live in the upscale in order to demonstrate to the world that you are blest of God!
Heaven weeps over them, Hell laughs at them, and the world is lost because of them.
They preach "another gospel," which is beamed around the world. Millions are being led astray by their apostasy. Multitudes end up on the trash heap of disillusionment when their false theology does not work. They are blind guides leading the blind. They have disgraced the precious Holy Spirit and His gifts. They mock and blaspheme Him and use His gift in error. They teeter on the brink of blasphemy. They have trampled under foot the legacy given and paid for by the blood of martyrs.
THEY HAVE BETRAYED THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST!! THEY HAVE BETRAYED PENTECOST!!!
The cry of the hour is, "Oh that YOU would rend the Heavens and come down!" Restore your church, Lord!! Raise up shepherds after your own heart!!
My heart yearns for what the prophet of old longed to see:
"O LORD, I have heard thy speech, and was afraid: O LORD, revive thy work in the midst of the years, in the midst of the years make known."