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Shame on North Dakota and Kudos to Iowa
Posted On: Apr 7 2009 4:29PM

On Friday, April 3rd, the state of North Dakota failed to pass a bill that would outlaw discrimination against gays and lesbians in North Dakota because "it would be protecting behavior that can be changed and that God abhors".  On that same day, April 3rd, the state of Iowa legalized Gay Marriage.  How can there be such a big difference in the two states?  They are both small midwestern agricultural states.  By failing to pass this bill, it will mean that landlords can refuse to rent to gays, and that employers can fire, or refuse to hire gays.


I guess the citizens of the state of North Dakota want to be governed by Christian radicals who believe they are "divinely inspired by God", which would kind of make it a Christian Theocracy.  The only problem with that is that a whole lot of the "Christian based religions" can't seem to get along with each other, either.


Well, since this means that it is OK to discriminate against gays ( and endorsed by the Christians), I hope that if there is ever a "Mathew Shepperd" incident out here in North Dakota, the State and the Christian Churches are willing to take part of the credit for it.


And this gives me just one more reason to remain apart from any christian religion.  Christianity promotes hateful behavior.

Posted On: Apr 7 2009 4:52PM

this whole gay and lesbian thing is just a fad!!

Posted By José
ID#: 16785
Posted On: Apr 7 2009 6:01PM

Pets,


You really need to quit helping yourself to the pharmacy there at the State Hospital.

Posted On: Apr 7 2009 6:22PM

No big deal,North Dakota sounded off,we like it the way it is!!!!
Posted On: Apr 7 2009 7:43PM

Your responses so far are just what I thought they would be.


Those farmers in Iowa stepped out of the dark ages a long time ago, while North Dakota will remain in the dark forever. 


Posted By Rider
ID#: 1520
Posted On: Apr 7 2009 8:04PM

Amazing this passed in Iowa before California.
Posted On: Apr 7 2009 8:10PM

Who is being discriminated against? You are protected under the law. File a suit or shut  your mouth.
Posted On: Apr 7 2009 8:42PM

Well, Rider, if a hundred thousand Mormons converge on Iowa, it may get reversed.    It was the Mormons who got it overturned in California.  Maybe if they passed a law that would make it legal for 3 or 4 men to all marry each other, it would have been a different story.
Posted On: Apr 7 2009 8:45PM

Oh, and Fossil, step back into your cave please.  Nobody asked you 


Posted By 37rye
ID#: 19261
Posted On: Apr 7 2009 9:25PM

Christian radicals????   Wow, you really are stupid Pets
WHAT? There ARE NO Christian radicals....who the @#$@# are YOU calling stupid?
You really are a lightweight...I'm sure you think that Christian Radicals are less dangerous than Muslim Radicals...
but then, reality was never your strong suit....as a matter of fact, you were dealt a void in that suit.
REALITY sonnyboy...In REALITY, Iowa,and Vermont..certainly not, (unless you're Jack or willy...or you...) "Liberal" states....have awakened to reality...North Dakots, as Pets has pointed out..has not yet seen the cold glare of the light of reason...by and large, because there are too many people like you there.
Posted On: Apr 7 2009 9:35PM

Liberals have no problem with discrimmination against certain people or groups that they don't like.


Last week I heard a governor in New York state make a remark about using taxes to drive out a citizen of the US out of New York state due to his POLITICAL beliefs.  If it took higher taxes to get rid of Rush Limbaugh, I would have rasised taxes sooner.  Aslo this liberal state had no problem with auditing Limbaugh every year.


Try this with any liberal protected group and see what will happen.


 


 

Posted On: Apr 7 2009 9:52PM

Each state to his own.  For those not up to speed on some of the facts regarding the Iowa gay marriage and for that matter the whole national gay mnarriage laws.  There is big money getting people elected to ramrod this stuff down the states  throats.  One of the billionaires planning and scheming the devilish debacle is Timothy Gill, a gay man who wants nothing more than to get gay initiatives passed in as many staes as he can.


They Won’t Know What Hit Them - The Atlantic (March 2007)

Posted On: Apr 7 2009 9:56PM

Lone I am all over this.. homestate and all. I will fill you in I am waiting for the real story on all this and the inclusion of other "millionaires" there is going to be a huge coutrt battle over this... How about the Reverse dicrimination Suit slated for trial in about 10 days this should be interesting .. Interestingly enough, Obama and Holder are somewhat involved.. Let me get my facts and I will return..
Posted On: Apr 7 2009 10:01PM

That topic (Rush selling NYC property) deserves its own thread.
Posted On: Apr 7 2009 10:04PM

Frank Ricci - - a firefighter in New Haven, Conn. - - spent months listening to study tapes as he drove to work and in the evenings, preparing for a promotional test. It was a once-a-decade chance to move up to a command rank in the fire department. Ricci earned a top score but no promotion. The city had coded the test takers by race, and of the top 15 scorers, 14 were white and one was Latino. Since there were only 15 vacancies, it looked as though no blacks would be promoted. After a racially charged debate that stretched over four hearings, the city's civil service board rejected the test scores five years ago and promoted no one. "To have the city throw it out because you're white or because you're not African American is insulting," Ricci said when he and 19 other firefighters sued the city for racial discrimination. Their case, scheduled to be argued this month, is the first to come before the Supreme Court under Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. that broadly raises the issue of race in the workplace. The outcome could reshape hiring and promotion policies for millions of the nation's public employees - - and possibly for private employers as well. Roberts, leading a five-justice majority, has made clear that he believes it is time to forbid the use of race as a factor in the government's decisions. The Obama administration, taking its first stand on race and civil rights, sided with the city officials and said they were justified in dropping the test if it had "gross exclusionary effects on minorities." While blacks make up about 31% of New Haven's 221 firefighters, 15% are officers - - eight of the department's 42 lieutenants and one of its 18 captains. At issue in the New Haven case is whether an employer can weigh the racial effect of a hiring or promotional standard.
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