I might add that your one source was taken from a Wiccan website but I will continue to see if I find any other stuff as it relates to the origins of Thanksgiving.

Thanks Again.

John

good work ND,

Its that simple. If it is a pagan celebration with pagan customs or traditions then I will not partake in it.

I will look more into it forsure, thanks!!!

Now Rider, be nice.   Sometimes I think married people need to take a break,  he works, and I paint my  daughters house, we all get stuff done.  And he is so glad to be home.

Impossible.  I don't think I am impossible.  But  I have been told I am as tough as cement...   :)

So,  that post was too hard to read Rider, can you change it?

Pain...you decide for yourself if you think Thanksgiving is rooted in paganism. Seems to me though, there is enough historical evidence to at least question it...don't you think?

http://paganismwicca.suite101.com/article.cfm/thanksgiving_pagan_roots

http://pandorasbazaar.blogspot.com/2006/11/pagan-america-thanksgiving.html

http://www.nazarite.net/evil-holidays.html

Faith and belief are usually used synonymously. And when I'm speaking in a common sense way, I usually follow this convention.

However, personally, when I'm trying to be more specific, I try to differentiate between them.  I do not pretend that my differentiation is generally accepted. And, in fact, for those who attempt to differentiate, I have heard it argued more times in the opposite of how I use it (Similar to how Flapps just used it).

But to me it is "belief" in which there is no evidence, but you choose to accept it.

Faith, on the other hand, to me at least, connotes that there is some evidence to base a belief on.  So for example, Immanuel Kant took his daily walk at 4:30pm every day (except once when he was reading Rousseau). The people and stores along that walk used to set their clocks by him.  So if this was Novebember 27th, 1799, and it was 4:30pm, we could not say for certain that Kant would go walking; however, we could have a good deal of faith that he would.

On the other end of this concept of faith is a notion of "Blind Faith"......and it is this that I would use synonymously with "belief."

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Again, more times than not, I see that others have flipped these two: faith being without evidence and belief being based in fact.