The Vatican has denounced as "outrageous
and grave" plans by an American Christian minister to burn copies
of the Quran to mark the Sept. 11 anniversary.
The Vatican office responsible for relations with Islam issued a
stern statement Wednesday
The imam behind plans for an Islamic community
center near ground zero writes in a newspaper editorial that the
facility will include "separate prayer spaces for Muslims,
Christians, Jews and men and women of other faiths."
The national debate ove
The Justice Department is investigating a
handful of apparently anti-Muslim incidents in four states,
including the stabbing of a Muslim cab driver in New York City.
FBI agents and civil rights division investigators also are
looking into vandal
An interfaith group meeting in Washington is
condemning the plans of a Florida pastor to burn copies of the
Quran on the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.
The Muslim, Jewish, Roman Catholic and evangelical leaders say
the burning would violate Am
The senior pastor of a Florida church
says the concerns being raised by the top U.S. and NATO commander
in Afghanistan are legitimate.
Gen. David Petraeus today warned that if the church goes through
with its plans to burn copies of the Quran to
As many as 30,000 homes in the Rio Grande
valley of Texas are without power after an encounter with Tropical
Storm Hermine (hur-MEEN'). But there are no reports of serious
injuries or major damage, and no evacuations were ordered. The
storm, which ca
A fire marshal says a wind-whipped wildfire that
has sent flames roaring through a rugged canyon in the Colorado
foothills has destroyed dozens of homes.
Brett Haberstick of the Sunshine Fire Protection District says
early Tuesday that firefight
A Florida pastor says Muslim protests
abroad and condemnation from U.S. government and religious leaders
won't deter him from burning Islam's holy book on Saturday.
This past Sunday, the Rev. Terry Jones told his congregation at
the Dove World O
The top U.S. and NATO commander in
Afghanistan is warning against an American church's plan to burn
the Muslim holy book.
Gen. David Petreus says burning the Quran could endanger U.S.
troops in Afghanistan and Americans worldwide.
In an
A Florida pastor says Muslim protests
abroad and condemnation from U.S. government and religious leaders
won't deter him from burning Islam's holy book on Saturday.
This past Sunday, the Rev. Terry Jones told his congregation at
the Dove World O
Pastors of the only two churches on
Ocracoke (OHK'-ruh-kohk) Island have evacuated as Hurricane Earl
threatens the North Carolina coast.
The Rev. Ivey Belch of Ocracoke Assembly of God says he and the
island's Methodist minister were on the same
Five years after Hurricane Katrina flooded
New Orleans, President Barack Obama has told residents that the
city's revival reminds him of a passage from the Bible.
Quoting the book of Job, Obama said: "There is hope for a tree
if it be cut down t
Critics of the country's largest
Lutheran denomination and its more open stance toward gay clergy
have formed a new group at a meeting in Ohio of a conservative
activist group.
Members of Lutheran CORE voted overwhelmingly to approve the
creati
Critics of the country's largest
Lutheran denomination and its more open stance toward gay clergy
have formed a new denomination at a meeting in Ohio of a
conservative activist group.
Members of Lutheran CORE voted overwhelmingly Friday to appro
More than 100 leaders of religious groups are
urging Congress to reject legislation that would prohibit them from
hiring only fellow believers if they accept federal funds.
Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for
Separation of Chu
A year to the week after the country's
largest Lutheran denomination opened its ranks to non-celibate gay
pastors, critics of the new policy are preparing to launch a brand
new denomination.
Former members of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in A
A year to the week after the country's
largest Lutheran denomination opened its ranks to non-celibate gay
pastors, critics of the new policy are preparing to launch a brand
new denomination.
Former members of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in A
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Same-sex weddings in California are on hold
indefinitely after a federal appeals court blocked them while it
considers the constitutionality of the state's gay marriage ban.
The decision, issued Monday by a three-judge panel of the 9th
U.S. Circ
A famous atheist's deadly cancer doesn't
appear to have shaken his unbelief.
Christopher Hitchens tells The Atlantic magazine that he knows
he's dying, but still views all religion as manmade and all of its
claims to divine revelation as false.
Today in History
Today is Saturday, Aug. 21, the 233rd day of 2010. There are 132
days left in the year.
Today's Highlight in History:
On Aug. 21, 1959, President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed an
executive order making Hawaii th
The pastor of a church that supported
the leader of a medical team whose 10 members were killed in
Afghanistan says Tom Little was sharing God's love through mercy
ministry.
The bodies of the civilian volunteers, including Little and five
other
Today in History
Today is Saturday, Aug. 21, the 233rd day of 2010. There are 132
days left in the year.
Today's Highlight in History:
On Aug. 21, 1959, President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed an
executive order making Hawaii th
Focus on the Family is laying off
another 110 workers this month, leaving the Christian ministry with
750 employees about half the staff it had in 2002.
Focus spokesman Gary Schneeberger says the cuts come amid a
recession that has impacted don
An online group that prays for the
president, other national leaders and U.S. troops wants members to
know that it's not linked to the Democratic National Committee.
Jim Bolthouse, executive director of the Presidential Prayer
Team, says hundred
Religious activists who oppose Arizona's new
immigration law say they'll go ahead with prayer vigils Thursday
despite an injunction blocking some of the law's provisions from
taking effect.
A federal judge postponed a requirement that officers c
Seven pastors who were barred from serving
in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America because it required
gay clergy to be celibate have been welcomed into the denomination.
A rite of reception service was held Sunday at St. Mark's
Lutheran C
Engineers are hoping for a window of clear
weather long enough to plug BP's leaking oil well for good and
crews are hurrying to get back to work.
Tropical Storm Bonnie fizzled out, but with peak hurricane
season starting in early August, chances
Any danger from Tropical Storm Bonnie has
passed, but crews working to plug BP's leaking oil well in the Gulf
of Mexico are keeping an eye on the forecasts for the next storm.
Though Bonnie fell apart today, retired Coast Guard Admiral Thad
Allen s
Seven pastors from the San Francisco Bay
area who were barred from serving in the nation's largest Lutheran
group because of a policy that required gay clergy to be celibate
are being welcomed into the denomination.
The Evangelical Lutheran Chur
Wholesale prices are down for a third
consecutive month. Another drop in energy costs and the biggest
plunge in food costs in eight years banished inflation in June. The
Labor Department says wholesale prices dropped 0.5 percent last
month, following
The number of homes foreclosed on this year
could be ten times the usual amount. A firm that keeps track of
foreclosures says almost 528,000 homes were taken over by lenders
during the first six months of this year. By year's end, RealtyTrac
Inc. say
Two evangelical groups have organized a
national day of prayer for communities affected by the Gulf oil
spill.
It will be held Sunday at churches across the country. The event
is being put together by The National Association of Evangelicals
an
The state health department is providing
tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis vaccines to health care providers
in its immunization program at no cost for a limited time. Cases of
pertussis, better known as whooping cough, are on the rise this
year in s
Three Fargo congregations are renewing their relationships with the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, after stopping to give funds following a decision on gay clergy.
First Lutheran Church is the latest to renew its ties. The other congreations vot
North Dakota lawmakers spent almost
$380,000 in taxpayers' money in the last year to go on out-of-state
trips.
Since the Legislature adjourned in May 2009, lawmakers have gone
on jaunts to Florida, California, China and Europe.
An Associat
Three Lutheran congregations in Fargo have
renewed giving to the national offices of the Evangelical Lutheran
Church in America, after suspending funds following a decision on
gay clergy.
First Lutheran Church is the latest. That church also is
The lead plaintiff in McDonald v. Chicago, in
which the Supreme Court ruled that all Americans have the right to
own guns for self-defense, is praising God for his victory.
Otis McDonald said, "I would like to first give thanks to my
lord and sa
An official with the Twin Cities Pride
Festival says organizers will continue trying to keep an
evangelical Christian from Wisconsin out of the festival. A federal
judge ruled Friday the festival couldn't prevent Brian Johnson from
passing out Bibles
An official with the Twin Cities Pride
Festival says organizers will continue trying to keep an
evangelical Christian from Wisconsin out of the festival.
On Friday, a federal judge ruled the festival couldn't prevent
Brian Johnson, of Hayward, W
U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi toured a
historic train station in St. Paul Saturday that's being turned
into a transit hub with stimulus dollars.
The depot project is getting $35 million from the American
Recovery and Reinvestment Act.
Sh
An evangelical Christian from Wisconsin
showed up Saturday at the Twin Cities Pride Festival.
On Friday, a federal judge ruled the festival couldn't prevent
Brian Johnson, of Hayward, Wis. from passing out Bibles and
discussing his views against
A retired Army general who drew criticism for
church speeches casting the war on terrorism in religious terms is
one of the GOP's witnesses against Supreme Court nominee Elena
Kagan.
Lt. Gen. William G. "Jerry" Boykin is one of four military
wi
The Evangelical Lutheran Good Samaritan
Society, which operates nursing homes in South Dakota and other
states, paid about $480,000 to settle allegations that it
improperly billed federal and state agencies for services provided
by a nurse. Good Sama
National Guard members and prison inmates
are helping with a sandbagging operation in Woonsocket, which has
been hit hard by heavy rains.
State spokesman Terry Woster says inmates from minimum-security
units in Yankton and Sioux Falls have been
U.S. Attorney Brendan Johnson and South
Dakota Attorney General Marty Jackley say they've settled a civil
case with The Evangelical Lutheran Good Samaritan Society.
They say the Society, which operates nursing homes in South
Dakota and other sta
Alabama Gov. Bob Riley has asked the
state's residents to turn to God as they cope with the oil spill in
the Gulf of Mexico.
Riley has declared Sunday a "Day of Prayer" and says he wants
Alabama residents to pray for those in and outside the sta
A Minneapolis Lutheran pastor could be back
in his conservative church's pulpit soon despite a gay magazine's
report that he attended a support group for men trying to control
same-sex attractions.
The Rev. Tom Brock is senior pastor at Hope Lut
A Minneapolis Lutheran pastor could be back
in his conservative church's pulpit soon despite a gay magazine's
report that he attended a support group for men trying to control
same-sex attractions.
The Rev. Tom Brock is senior pastor at Hope Lut
A new survey finds that Americans are divided
over whether they believe Jesus Christ will return by the year
2050.
Among respondents to the survey by the Pew Research Center for
the People and the Press and Smithsonian Magazine, 41 percent said
A Minneapolis-based gay magazine reports that
a [[kxtopic:lutheran:t[Lutheran]:t]] pastor who's been critical of allowing gay clergy has
attended a support group for men struggling with same-sex
attractions.
The Rev. Tom Brock is senior pastor a
A Minneapolis-based gay magazine reports that
a Lutheran pastor who's been critical of allowing gay clergy has
attended a support group for men struggling with same-sex
attractions.
The Rev. Tom Brock is senior pastor at Hope Lutheran Church in
A new survey finds that Americans are divided
over whether they believe Jesus Christ will return by the year
2050.
Among respondents to the survey by the Pew Research Center for
the People and the Press and Smithsonian Magazine, 41 percent said
A Minneapolis-based gay magazine has outed a
Lutheran pastor who's been critical of church leadership for
allowing gay people in committed relationships to become Lutheran
clergy.
The Rev. Tom Brock is senior pastor at Hope Lutheran Church in
M
Gov. Bobby Jindal and members of the
Louisiana Legislature have taken part in a prayer service seeking
God's help in coping with the continuing oil gusher in the Gulf of
Mexico.
Monday's half-hour event was held in the state Capitol's
Memorial
The pastor of the church that made the hit
movie "Fireproof" says his congregation's next film will stress
the importance of fathers in their children's lives.
The Rev. Michael Catt told fellow Southern Baptist pastors at
their annual meeting th
BP's chief executive has said repeatedly in
testimony to a House panel that he wasn't aware of the many
problems with the Deepwater Horizon rig and BP's well in the Gulf.
That angered lawmakers and prompted Hayward to say he was "not
stonewalling."
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Leaders of a group that encourages evangelical Christians to
care for the environment say the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico
raises moral challenges for the country.
The Revs. Jim Bal
An American construction worker detained in
Pakistan while on a solo mission to kill Osama bin Laden says he
was obeying an order from God to avenge the 9/11 attacks.
According to Pakistani security officials, Gary Faulkner claimed
God revealed
A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit
seeking to keep Kevin Schieffer from arbitrating a severance
package with his former employer, the Dakota, Minnesota & Eastern
Railroad.
U.S. District Judge Roberto Lange said in a ruling Wednesday
th
A U.S. appeals court says an anti-abortion
protester had a First Amendment right to demonstrate near tourists
at the Liberty Bell in Philadelphia.
The decision overturns lower-court rulings that upheld the 2007
arrest of Christian evangelical Mi
Some civil lawsuits over alleged elder
abuse at a Minnesota nursing home have been moved to South Dakota.
The lawsuits seek damages from the Sioux Falls-based Evangelical
Lutheran Good Samaritan Society, which runs the nursing home in
Albert Lea
Some civil lawsuits over alleged elder
abuse at a Minnesota nursing home have been moved to South Dakota.
The lawsuits seek damages from the Sioux Falls-based Evangelical
Lutheran Good Samaritan Society, which runs the nursing home in
Albert Lea
It's been one of southwestern Ohio's most
familiar landmarks.
And now, a day after it was struck by lightning and erupted in
flames, the remains of a six-story-tall statue of Jesus Christ
still attract visitors.
Hundreds of people stopped
President Barack Obama wraps up his
latest Gulf Coast trip today, then addresses the nation on the Gulf
Coast spill.
On stops in Mississippi and Alabama, the president tried to
sound both in command and upbeat, saying he's confident the Gulf
Co
Southern Baptists are recommitting
themselves to evangelism at their annual meeting this week in
Orlando, Fla.
The Rev. Ronnie Floyd, who chairs the denomination's Great
Commission Resurgence Task Force, will present its recommendations
to Sout
Police say a six-story-tall statue of Jesus
Christ with his arms raised along a southwest Ohio highway has been
struck by lightning in a thunderstorm and has burned to the ground.
The "King of Kings" statue had stood since 2004 at the
evangelica
The South Dakota Supreme Court has agreed to
consider a request by three news organizations that object to a
circuit judge's rulings that restricted public access to records
and courtroom proceedings in a trial dealing with a Black Hills
tourist attr
South Dakota Lutherans meet this weekend
to ponder a response to the Evangelical Lutheran Church in
America's recent decision to allow homosexuals in committed
relationships to serve as pastors.
Seven South Dakota churches left the ELCA followin
A plan to build a mosque and cultural center
near ground zero in New York City is drawing fire from families and
friends of those who died in the 9/11 attacks.
Pamela Geller, executive director of Stop Islamization of
America, organized a protes
A Turkish official says police have
detained a man suspected of stabbing a Roman Catholic bishop to
death.
Monsignor Luigi Padovese (pah-doh-VAY'-zay), the pope's
apostolic vicar in Anatolia, was killed Thursday outside his home
in southern Tur
Former megachurch pastor Ted
Haggard has called a news conference to make an unspecified
announcement.
The announcement from the evangelical pastor who fell from grace
amid a sex scandal is planned Wednesday at Haggard's Colorado
Springs home,
The St. Paul school board has taken the
first step in trimming $27 million from its 2010-2011 budget by
cutting 117 non-tenured teachers and a principal from the
district's payroll.
More layoffs are expected as the district deals with declining
Former megachurch pastor Ted
Haggard has called a news conference to announce the next step in
his career.
The announcement from the evangelical pastor who fell from grace
amid a sex scandal is planned Wednesday at Haggard's Colorado
Springs ho
Danish police say they won't
investigate alleged cases of sexual abuse in the country's Catholic
Church because most of them are obsolete.
But officers say five cases of alleged indecent exposure are
still under scrutiny.
The Catholic Chur
Former megachurch pastor Ted
Haggard has called a news conference to make an unspecified
announcement.
The announcement from the evangelical pastor who fell from grace
amid a sex scandal is planned Wednesday at Haggard's Colorado
Springs home,
Hundreds of church volunteers are
expected to head into the Minneapolis suburb of Brooklyn Park to
perform random acts of kindness.
The volunteers from Living Word Christian Center will be
recognizable by their bright yellow shirts as they fan o
An Idaho woman who was jailed for trying to
take 33 children from Haiti after the deadly January earthquake has
returned home.
Laura Silsby hugged relatives and friends from her church at the
airport in Boise and told reporters she's looking for
Indiana's Republican governor says he's
surprised and disappointed to hear that Congressman Mark Souder
(SOW'-dur) is resigning from Congress because of an extramarital
affair with a staff member.
Gov. Mitch Daniels says Souder "did a wrong thin
The Southern Baptist minister who leads
Liberty University's seminary is being investigated over claims he
embellished his past as a Muslim.
Ergun Caner (ehr-GUHN CAN-er) made a career as a go-to authority
for evangelicals on Islam, selling thou
I now have a You Tube Channel through which I can communicate some of the more complex bible concepts. I would like to take the time to invite all on KXnet to check it out and give me feedback.
All of this was performed by the infilling of the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost came in and cleansed their hearts of all the sin.
The following were all performed at the same time.
1)Conversion - Acts15:4
2)Baptism of the Holy Ghost - Acts11:16
3)Remission of Sin - Acts 10:43
4)Belief – Acts 15:7
5)Cleansing – Acts 10:15
6)Purifying their hearts – Acts 15:9
7)Speaking in tongues as evidence – Acts 10:46
8)Salvation by Grace – Acts 15:11
9)Possessed the Witness of the Holy Ghost
The notion that a person can be saved according to the dictates of his or her own feelings or emotions is very dangerous. Especially given that Jesus warned us repeatedly about false teacher leading people into error.
If YOU are going to err, I suggest you err on the side of caution and make sure that you do in fact have the Holy Ghost dwelling inside of you.
Act 15:1And certain men which came down from Judea taught the brethren, andsaid, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
Act 15:2When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.
Act 15:3And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phoenicia and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren. Act 15:4And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
Act 15:5But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
Act 15:6And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
Act 15:7And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
Act 15:8And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
Act 15:9And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.Act 15:10Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
Act 15:11But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.Conclusion: In this instance the Gentiles were NOT saved before going to Joppa. They were not saved because of any act on their behalf. They were saved by grace. They were saved by Jesus Blood, They were saved by his mercy, They were saved by his love, his word etc etc.&n Reply...
Act 15:1And certain men which came down from Judea taught the brethren, andsaid, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
Act 15:2When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.
Act 15:3And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phoenicia and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren. Act 15:4And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
Act 15:5But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
Act 15:6And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
Act 15:7And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
Act 15:8And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
Act 15:9And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.Act 15:10Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
Act 15:11But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.Conclusion: In this instance the Gentiles were NOT saved before going to Joppa. They were not saved because of any act on their behalf. They were saved by grace. They were saved by Jesus Blood, They were saved by his mercy, They were saved by his love, his word etc etc. Reply...
Act 10:16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven. Act 10:17 Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made inquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate, Act 10:18 And called, and asked whether Simon, which was surnamed Peter, were lodged there. Act 10:19 While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee. Act 10:20 Arise therefore, and get thee down, and go with them, doubting nothing: for I have sent them. Act 10:21 Then Peter went down to the men which were sent unto him from Cornelius; and said, Behold, I am he whom ye seek: what is the cause wherefore ye are come? Act 10:22 And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by a holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee. Note: He is a Just man. Act 10:23 Then called he them in, and lodged them. And on the morrow Peter went away with them, and certain brethren from Joppa accompanied him. Act 10:24 And the morrow after they entered into Caesarea. And Cornelius waited for them, and had called together his kinsmen and near friends. Act 10:25 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. Act 10:26 But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man. Act 10:27 And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together. Act 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath showed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. Act 10:29 Therefore came I unto you without gainsaying, as soon as I was sent for: I ask therefore for what intent ye have sent for me? Act 10:30 And Cornelius said, Four days ago I was fasting until this hour; and at the ninth hour I prayed in my house, and, behold, a man stood before me in bright clothing, Act 10:31 And said, Cornelius, thy prayer is heard, and thine alms are had in remembrance in the sight of God. Act 10:32 Send therefore to Joppa, and call hither Simon, whose surname is Peter; he is lodged in the house of one Simon a tanner by the sea side: who, when he cometh, shall speak unto thee. Act 10:33 Immediately therefore I sent to thee; and thou hast well done that thou art come. Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded thee of God. Act 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: Act 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. This is so important: Here we see that one can be “accepted with him” but still not saved! Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. This also is important: Here we see before Jesus was “anointed” he was called “Jesus of Nazareth” but after he was anointed he was called Jesus Christ or Jesus Anointed! Act 10:39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: Act 10:40 Him God raised up the third day, and showed him openly; Act 10:41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead. Act 10:42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. Act 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
Note here, now we get to the business end. Belief in Jesus as the Christ or the Messiah is a precondition to being “Granted Repentance” or Receiving “Remission of Sins”.
Act 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. Act 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? Act 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Did you notice that from verse 1 through verse 48 that there isn’t any indication of belief on the part of the Gentiles except to say that the Holy Ghost fell on them and Peter concluded from this that they were now ready for Baptism and commanded to be baptized.
If we are going to be good stewards of God’s kingdom we must make sure that those to whom we preach are NOT told they are saved until we have given them “All the Council of God!.
We then read on in chapter 11… Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. Act 11:17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God? Act 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
Further clarification is found in Chapter 15…. Act 15:1 And certain men which came down from Judea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved. Act 15:2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question. Act 15:3 And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phoenicia and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren. Act 15:4 And when they were come Reply...
1) How are we different today? 2) How do we know when we receive a “New Heart? 3) What is the process that we undergo in order to get a new heart? After all Cornelius was a “Just Man!” Act 10:1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band, Act 10:2 A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God always. Then these verses seem to contradict this assumption… Act 11:13 And he showed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon, whose surname is Peter; Act 11:14 Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved. Act 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning. Notice that Peter had only just began to speak. This also is important for those who proclaim that salvation is a function of learning or finding some outward religious intellectual position. Ponder this: They came to be told “words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved”. And then in the next breath we read “As I BEGAN to speak” the Holy Ghost fell on them”. What I am saying is this. The point of salvation (or being saved) is concurrent with The Baptism of the Holy Ghost and nothing had changed in the interim. This is a good time to revisit the events as they were accounted in Acts 10. I will look at a few interesting points. Act 10:1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band, Act 10:2 A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God always. Act 10:3 He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius. Act 10:4 And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God. Act 10:5 And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is Peter: Act 10:6 He lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do. Act 10:7 And when the angel which spake unto Cornelius was departed, he called two of his household servants, and a devout soldier of them that waited on him continually; Act 10:8 And when he had declared all these things unto them, he sent them to Joppa. Act 10:9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour: Act 10:10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance, Act 10:11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth: Act 10:12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. Act 10:13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. Act 10:14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. Act 10:15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. 1) The words: Common – Unclean – Unsaved are synonymous 2) This state of being Common – Unclean – Unsaved is repaired or reversed by the cleansing power of the Holy Ghost upon the APPLICATION of the blood of Christ. Similar to the APPLICATION of the blood in the Exodus story. Reply...
Normally I would start with Chapter 10. This time I would first like to draw your attention to a few accounts of the same event. (My comments in Blue)
Act 11:1And the apostles and brethren that were in
Judea heard that the Gentiles had also received the word of God. Act 11:2And when Peter was come up to Jerusalem , they that were of the circumcision contended with him, Act 11:3Saying, Thou wentest in to men uncircumcised, and didst eat with them. Act 11:4But Peter rehearsed the matter from the beginning, and expounded it by order unto them, saying, Act 11:5I was in the city of Joppa praying: and in a trance I saw a vision, A certain vessel descend, as it had been a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came even to me: Act 11:6Upon the which when I had fastened mine eyes, I considered, and saw fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. Act 11:7And I heard a voice saying unto me, Arise, Peter; slay and eat.
Act 11:8But I said, Not so, Lord: for nothing common or unclean hath at any time entered into my mouth. Act 11:9But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. Act 11:10And this was done three times: and all were drawn up again into heaven.
Act 11:11And, behold, immediately there were three men already come unto the house where I was, sent from
Caesarea unto me.
Act 11:12And the Spirit bade me go with them, nothing doubting. Moreover these six brethren accompanied me, and we entered into the man's house:
This passage is import for those who proclaim that salvation is at the point of belief and NOT at the time of the infilling or baptism in the Holy Ghost.
If Cornelius was saved upon belief we must find an indication of this in the text, failing this if Belief and the Baptism of the Holy Ghost are at the same time we must ask:
Hi Shopp: I would like to put forward a perspective on what "SAVED" means scripturally. Around the turn of the 20th century the terms:
1) Saved
2) Born Again
3) Baptised in the Holy Ghost
4) Salvation
All had somewhat of a facelift. What I mean by that is that churches globally applied these terms in a variety of ways to their members.
e.g. Some would say that salvation was a result of adherance to church dogma, others would say that salvation was a result of the new convert saying the "Sinners Prayer" etc etc.
I would like to draw your attention to the Bible definition of these terms and demonstrate that they all (1-4) speak of the same experience. The story that helps us (God placed in the Bible for us to understand the points of reference) is the story of Cornelius and the Conversion of the Gentiles.
Please read carefully and understand the words for they are very important and in conflict with teaching today that salvation is at some stage prior to the receiving of the Holy Ghost.
I was saved 20 yrs before I spoke in tongues (which I do only rarely in private)... I feel If I had died before I did speak in tongues , I would have went to heaven. I just feel the same Spirit that helps a person speak in tongues was already in my the moment I got saved.
1Co 12:19 And if they were all one member, where were the body? 1Co 12:20 But now are they many members, yet but one body. 1Co 12:21 And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you. 1Co 12:22 Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary: 1Co 12:23 And those members of the body, which we think to be less honorable, upon these we bestow more abundant honor; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness. 1Co 12:24 For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honor to that part which lacked: 1Co 12:25 That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. 1Co 12:26 And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honored, all the members rejoice with it. 1Co 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
When read in context all the members encourage one another and there is NO SCHISM. It is a wonderful experience to see God work amongst his people. Jesus said "I have many things to say to you but you cannot bear them yet" Interpretation and Prophecy have saved marriages, prevented backsliding, saved lives, converted believers and unlocked mysteries before our eyes. 1Co 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. 1Co 12:29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? 1Co 12:30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret? 1Co 12:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet show I unto you a more excellent way.
Not all will have manifestations of all gifts "IN THE CHURCH" But this cannot be a foundation of the belief that All only get one gift or that we are not fully equipped with the potential for all. Of the 9 gifts; tongues was given other functions they are as follow: 1) Sign following believer, 2) Prayer, 3) Edification of our inner man. False religion is rampant, if ever people needed confirmatory evidence of entry into God's plan and the infilling of the Holy Spirit, it is today. Our motivation needs to be careful, studious, loving leadership in the church, not finding the point of least resistance.
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Though it is understandable that in isolation verses 8 to 11 clearly say that one will get this gift and another will get a different gift it is totally wrong to apply these verses to a setting that ignores the fact that this section of scripture is describing how the gifts would be manifested in a church service. The context is "the manifestation of the Spirit" [IN THE MEETING] (sunerchomai Greek). To apply these 9 gifts in the greater "Body of Christ" is stepping away from the grammatical order. To say that these 9 listed gifts represent the entirety of the grace of God is also untrue. There are many more gifts that come with the infilling of the Holy Spirit. God is NOT a RESPECTER of persons. (the separate gifts doctrine is opposite to this statement from God. We are "thoroughly furnished" so as to not "come behind or LACK any gift".
Further and most importantly; to say that one has the "gift of FAITH" and another has "The gift of Miracles" and so on, has created a position of spiritual ladder climbing which is the opposite of the intended purpose of this chapter. Besides that without the gift of FAITH it is impossible to please God. So we all MUST have that Gift.
Miracles are performed by GOD not our special abilities. Further if someone is healed of blindness it is the patient who has the GIFT of healing not the person praying for another.
1Co 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1Co 12:14 For the body is not one member, but many.
Unity of the Body is emphasized. The Context is specifically (dysfunction in the "meeting or assembling together") Verse 12-14 is however true in application to the greater Body of Christ. But the application in this chapter is IN THE CHURCH SERVICE.
1Co 12:15 If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 1Co 12:16 And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 1Co 12:17 If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? 1Co 12:18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him
Some of the gifts are only manifested in the meeting. Divers kinds of tongues, interpretation and prophecy. Of course If someone never interprets it does not mean that they don’t have the Holy Spirit. The difference with tongues is that tongues had several purposes not the least of which is a confirmatory sign. Notice that tongues in the meeting is termed “Divers kinds of tongues”. We don’t all manifest these gifts in the meeting but according to the “measure of faith” we will manifest them. The gift is already present within us it is unlocked by OUR FAITH!
Tongues are the easiest gift to manifest during the operation of the spiritual gifts because we all received that manifestation upon belief as seal of the Holy Spirit. (See Acts 2:4 & 10:44)
Notice haw Paul the Apostle draws attention to "dumb idols" Dumb means Idols that “Cannot Speak” This is in stark contrast to God who proved himself on numerous occasions verbally.Earlier in this letter had pointed out to the Corinthians that Christianity is a dynamic miracle working religion when he said.
1Co 2:4 "And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: 1Co 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God." (Demonstration of the Spirit) the antithesis of Dumb Idols.
1Co 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.(You cannot call Jesus Lord without the Holy Spirit)
The question arises, Is this ability (the manifestation of the gifts of the Spirit) for a select few; or all? The former would lead to resentment perhaps and maybe even a spiritual hierarchy. In many groups who practice the "grading of gifts" (i.e. Tongues is the least and prophecy or healing are the greatest.) results in a large amount of "non-participant" members. In other words the more extraverted people make all the noise and those who are not confident simply sit and observe. The Bible calls this being "Unequally yoked". This may not seem a big deal to many however the purpose of fellowship is firstly to present the gospel to unbelievers and secondly to exhort and edify existing members. Many in these groups who believe that one gets this gift and another that gift are placed in the position of "spectators" to the show. The Corinthians chapters 11 through 14 model is INCLUSIVE as opposed to EXCLUSIVE. Allowing the weaker to edify the strong and vice versa. This is why I believe this is such an important topic to cover.
1Co 12:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
We who have received the Holy Spirit are partakers of ONE Spirit. We are born again, our lives are not our own. Jesus lives through us. The concept of each person receiving more or less DEPENDANT on their FAITH is more about SELF GLORY than that of GOD. Anonymity in receipt of the gifts of God, and our use of them bring with them greater rewards in the world to come. That is consistent with Jesus' nature.
1Co 12:5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. 1Co 12:6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
Note in verse 6: ALL in ALL! Meaning: ALL (each and every one of the gifts) in ALL (Each and every Christian) Paul’s letter to the Ephesians helps us to understand this.
Eph 1:22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, Eph 1:23 Which is his body, the fullness of him that filleth All in All.
1Co 12:7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
This is a key verse: Because it opens with "But the manifestation"("But" included to contrast previous verse) The Christian is "filled" with all the capabilities available.(verse 6) BUT the manifestation ( DURING the OPERATION) of the spiritual gifts is not displayed by all, but is for EVERYONE’S good. (verse 7)
1Co 12:8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 1Co 12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 1Co 12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: 1Co 12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
Blind leaders of the Blind are fairly easy to recognize. They, for the most part avoid the Bible
The Bible says that God's word gives light, in fact it is the light. If we follow that light we will not stumble or fall.
It is noteworthy that our spirited little name caller barely touched on a scripture at all in his/her dose of verbage.
I will however like to respond by addressing the verse that they did quote.......
The Manifestations of the Holy Ghost in the Church Service
The 12th chapter of Paul's letter to the Corinthians is a widely misapplied text of scripture. In this chapter Paul itemises 9 of the manifestations of the Holy Ghost as they are apparent in the church meeting. What many have done today is to cite various texts from this chapter to say that one person is gifted with this gift (e.g. faith) and another is gifted with that (e.g. miracles). A result of this is that some boast of having gifts of healing, miracles and/or knowledge and have therefore given themselves a promotion over others who they perceive as being less gifted. This was never the desired intention of Paul who wrote the letter, or of God who inspired Paul so to write. The following is a brief summary of this chapter that hopefully will clear up any misunderstandings.
Preface:In chapters 11 through 14 of the letter to the Corinthians there is clear instruction to the early Christian church on how to conduct their meetings. Chapter 11 begins with the statement...1Co11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. 1Co 11:2 "Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you." It follows that at the close of his directives concerning church services he states 1Co 14:40”Let all things be done decently and in order." These comments act as bookends to the sole instruction in the Bible concerning structure and format in meeting together for Church services. The Greek word for Meeting Together sunerchomai;appears 8 times in the Bible. All in this epistle. 5 times in chapter 11 and twice in chapter 14 and 1 time in chapter 7. Instruction on how to convene meetings IS NOT FOUND in any other epistle. This means that the context of chapter 12 is when the church is in the state of "Meeting Together". Having established the clear context lets continue.
Note: This chapter is clearly written to the church directing them in the correct way that they are to operate in the ACT of meeting together. In spite if the clear context that governs the reading of these verses church leaders who have many members who do not display many of the above gifts devised a doctine that these verses be applied to churches who ARE NOT IN THE ACT OF MEETING TOGETHER.
This was done to satisfy people who did not want to speak in tongues. This doctrine is a lie and creates huge problems in the following chapters, especially chapter 14 verses 26-40.
1st Corinthians Chapter 12:
1Co 12:1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant. 1Co 12:2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.
Notice haw Paul the Apostle draws attention to "dumb idols" Dumb means Idols that “Cannot Speak” This is in stark contrast to God who proved himself on numerous occasions verbally.Earlier in this letter had pointed out to the Corinthi Reply...
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To finish to Luke7_35 ..........after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, (and lastly) diversities of tongues. Are all apostles? are prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? Have all the gifts of healing? do allspeak with tongues? do all interpret? But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way. DRUM ROLL PLEASE................. (1 Corinthians 13:1-8) s, and have not charity, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity,
Two thousand plus years later, the anonymous, bold speaking Luke authors his own Gospel that literally judges BILLIONS of past, non-tongue speaking Christians to hell. And in truth, all because of the Television. Because without the television giving a new platform to crooked healing and tongue speaking liars, who, in the past were limited to horse drawn, one ring circuses, reaching only a few, this whole idea would be no where. So, in other words, ONLY because we have way to reach everyone, we now declare a new gospel? One that, because the television was not around for the liars of the past, means, pretty much EVERY Christian before 1930 is hell bound. It's an interesting, but ignorant concept Luke. Now I ask you to apologize to the masses of people you've caused heartache, anger and a newly formed BAD opinion of Christianity. Which by the way, it's people like you with your "intellectualized" purposefully confused reading of God's otherwise VERY SIMPLE PLAN FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM, that have literally caused Millions of people to either walk out the door of the church, and or, turn to a false religion. ALL because idiots, refuse to be and do what the same people you quote, insisted was what REALLY determined your eternal home. So you can parse, pluck and puke out the scriptures to create your tightly woven cliché of a few, but I challenge you to rethink it all, and humbly return with an apology and correction. It's okay Luke, we've all been down this road, thinking and or believing the doctrines of devils, but you cannot deny, the one and only thing that proves for sure you're wrong. NOT EVER did Jesus do or say something to believers that caused such a division as what you are proposing as fact. You have but ONE scripture, that WE KNOW by other things said throughout the Word, is an incomplete, mere mentioning in passing, list of things a saved person might experience. In ALL the thousands of people that Jesus TOLD were saved, NOT ONCE did He say they needed to do what Luke7_35 insists they do today? It is astonishingly arrogant for you to insist that to believe what you're saying, we must parse ALL the other scriptures, EXCEPT this one that you rest ALL of what you insist on? Pretty dangerous my friend, I hope you understand how many young people with already bad, confused and disgruntled attitudes about Christianity are being assisted to be more so by your unlearned doctrine. When you can show us all that Jesus, or anyone EVER SAID, "Sorry, you will not make it to heaven UNLESS you speak in tongues" we'll be ready to drink the rest of your kool aid. Finally Luke, you threw in somewhere in your ranting another edict of men that has clearly been one of the major reasons people depart from the church, and eventually quit believing in God altogether. I've talked to many of these people, it is a fact. It's this idea of Healing. god's still healing, and I've been the undeserving recipient of a healing directly at has Hands. But when you start BLAMING people for not being healed, you just took JUDGMENT into your own hands, AGAIN, as you've done with this tongue talking lie. You open the doors for all the God hating people to increase the power of their arguments with these arrogant man made theologies. Because it's pretty obvious, if these "healers" exist, then one of two things is true. Either they are ALL LIARS, or God is a terrible god. To which, the latter I CAN ATTEST, He is NOT. Hence, the former are ALL LIARS. Because this ridiculous notion of modern tongue talking evangelicalism, has caused almost everyone to take another look at what is really being said. Basically, it says; God's only willing to "heal" those who can walk through the doors of the disgraceful churches of men on their power. Because we all know, these "great healers" aren't going to their bedsides are they? Uh-uh, they gather in huge auditoriums and await people to come and drop their cash. Christ didn't take up offerings, He handed out food and drink. And if it not be so, then I can assure you, He wouldn't waste a moment of time on those strife filled, backbiting apostate buildings of men. He'd grab His healers and march them down to the local children's cancer treatment center and take care of business. You know, I know, God knows it. Instead, you have to be part of a embittered church cliche' to be a recipient of God's healing? Sorry, I buy that one as much as I buy your incomplete, deceiving man made doctrine of tongues. Luke, I've been down that road you''re on, right after I was healed from certain death, nearly 8 years ago. I, like you have went from believing and hearing God on the day He saved me/you, to hearing and believing men now that the idea has settled into my/your evil conscious. In your heart of hearts, if you reread the Word, and STOP worrying about whether what you see in it, REALLY lines up with what a preacher or a church constitution says, and let the Word by Its Glorious self, answer these questions, then God will be as real as He was the day you felt Him reach down, clean you out, and fill you up. You have to admit, since tongue talking, for all intents and purposes, although used discreetly before recent times, is really a "new" edict in the church, which then means, pretty much every Christian up until about 1980 is hell bound? If you think for a nansecond that God let that happen, then you don't know God very well at all. I've even heard preachers say that if you don't believe in the rapture, your going to hell. Pretty stupid statement, since the rapture wasn't even figured out until very recently. Which again means, ALL those people before that recently added gospel of men went to hell? Pretty bizarre God, if you ask me. Basing His greatest gift on "if and when" a man figures something out that's never been taught or practiced before? That ain't the God I'm reading about. Reply...
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Mr. Luke, or whoever you are....
Did you know, that NO WHERE in the Bible does it say what you are saying? NO WHERE DOES IT SAY; “To be saved, you must speak in tongues?” The best you can put forth is when Jesus said "signs will follow" and gave “AN INCOMPLETE LIST OF SPIRITUAL SIGNS AND WONDERS. Do you realize what that means? It means anyone including an anonymous Luke7_35 could come along and ADD his or her own “sign or wonder” at any time.
By the Bible and your own words, the list given is incomplete. And, if you’re going to insist we all be so “thorough” on reading the Word of God, please try a little of that your self. The fact is, Paul, later on in Corinthians (after having been visited by the Lord) gave a longer, much more complete list. And even then young man, PAUL DID NOT CONCLUDE WHAT YOU ARE CONCLUDING. In fact, he concluded the EXACT opposite of what you are saying. If you were there then, he would have rebuked you and reminded you of something I find very little of in all your postings. It’s that thing known as charity, for which, a paraphrased Paul would claim, "without charity bucko, you can tongue talk all the way to your grave, but you're still going to hell." He would also “kindly” put his hand on your shoulder and say, “my son, have you never read…..
1Co 12:6-12 And there arediversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to anotherthe word of knowledgeby the same Spirit; To anotherfaithby the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healingby the same Spirit; 1Co 12:10 To anotherthe working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
To which, Luke7_35 might respond, but, but, but, what about. And Paul would shout over to his friend, (2 Tim 4) “bring with thee the books, but especially the parchments. Luke7_35 the forum hogger is doing these people much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works: of whom be thou ware also; for he hath greatly withstood our words.
Then, dear gentle, patient Paul would go on to exhort Luke7_35 to read further. . . .
1Co 12:28-31And God hath set somein the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, Reply...
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