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Posted by prairie fire on Nov 19 2009 9:08AM
In Article: New Town schools forcing all kids to learn Hidatsa
besides we never OWNED this land..as good decent indians as we are,,, the God told us to CARE for it..use it as only we can..Not with GREED for rape.
not like the Great white mans wayz...  I'd rather me be a transient with my buffalo lodge to set up wheere ever I want to.. even in this rich fancy guys yard..LOL..
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Posted by prairie fire on Nov 19 2009 9:06AM
In Article: New Town schools forcing all kids to learn Hidatsa
selbybeaver or wuttever?  You made no sense!...are you indian? or scandinavian? Reply...


Posted by prairie fire on Nov 19 2009 9:04AM
In Article: New Town schools forcing all kids to learn Hidatsa
hey alumni!  go grab one them skins by the hair n make em leern..see how far you get... IF the kids want to learn?then they can stay at home and pik up the old ways and start helping granma and granpa..hidatsa?arikara?whutever the lingo..we all speak it regaurdless.  so you non indians who got kids going to the ress skools,stop biotching!  if you dont like it? send them off to an all white skool!..theres plenty of fake whites out here who would Gladly leern the indians talk juss so they could go an exploit us!!! Reply...


Posted by Yoda am I on Nov 6 2009 5:02PM
In Article: New Town schools forcing all kids to learn Hidatsa

Why do we keep bringing up the racial issue.  This is a problem with the school and it's lack of options, not some issue over who was here first.  Stick to the topic, please!


But since you bring it up, I have often wondered how people feel about this. 


Say you own a plot of land, you are down on your luck so you decide to sell the plot to Mr. John Doe.  Mr. Doe brings cash and it is considered paid in full.  - - - - - - -20 years go by - - - - - - - - Land values go up with time and you regret selling your land.  Can you go and track down Mr. Doe and try to get more money for the land you sold to him all those years ago?  No, you can't.


Even better say you were the person buying the land, how would you feel if the former owner, who you have already paid, tracked you down and demanded that you pay for the land again and again? 


I know the land under the lake is getting paid for over and over, but the thing nobody talks about here, is the FACT that there was non-natives that owned land that is under the lake.  No matter if you like it or not, they paid for their land too.  It wasn't them took the Indian's land.  The government made these deals with the Indians.  A lot of times, they drew up shady deals to aquire it.  But the fact is the land was then sold to people that actually worked hard to buy it from them. These people have never had any reimbursement for their land.  Every time I hear the same old argument of how the tribes land was lost when the lake was formed, I think what about the rest of the people that had land that was flooded there.


Now I tend to avoid these arguments as I live in the heart of the reservation, but when I run into narrow minded people on either side of the argument, something needs to be said.


This post is a school issue as far as I can tell, lets keep it as that.   As long as the school is considering itself a PUBLIC school, getting tax money from the US Govt. to operate, then it would be very wrong to ask that non-natives to move away.  Are you stuck in the 50's?  Maybe you miss the days of segregation?  Until we do away with all these negative viewpoints, will we ever getting beyond the race issues. 

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Posted by shelbey.deaver09 on Nov 5 2009 10:37PM
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you know this is bs....the native americans owned this land from the very beginning...THE VERY BEGINNING.....and the white people took over their land...if the native americans take the land back to have a reservation, they have all rights to that.....and if the white people are living there....they need to respect the fact that they are living on the reservation and if they dont like it then they can move off the reservation. most people dont see it but they owe native americans alot more than they think they do....by taking over their land they took over their culture and now the tribes have very little of their culture left and they want to value that. It is all about RESPECT for their culture....and if you dont want your child to learn this then move or change schools. and with the tax money bs...excuse you we owe it to them and you know they pay taxes too....so stfu travislee_johnson

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Posted by NT alumni on Nov 4 2009 9:28AM
In Article: New Town schools forcing all kids to learn Hidatsa
Its not that simple to just go out and find a teacher that has a degree in a second language. The school doesnt GO OUT LOOKING for teachers either. You have to advertise, and when there is an interested teacher, they have to have creditials that meet the standards that meet what New Town is looking for. Then they have to have the right schooling, and degrees. Qualified teachers, have to go through background checks, and finger printing to make sure everything is what it should be. I think that it would be nice for students to learn a different culture than our own. I studied Hidatsa in college, and I feel better I did, now that I know more about my heritage and where I come from and my own beliefs. I studied spanish in high school, and now it comes in handy when I need it. Students that have the option to learn are very lucky. They're are so many kids in this world that wont get schooling. The students here are very lucky to have the school and teachers that are willing to teach them what they think is best for the students. Reply...


Posted by Yoda am I on Nov 3 2009 3:21PM
In Article: New Town schools forcing all kids to learn Hidatsa

I can't speak for the original creator of this post, however, I can tell you exactly what I was told by the school superintendant. 


We have five kids total, ages 17-2.  We (Myself & my wife), thought it would be better served for our children to learn a language that they could use in a broader sense than Hidatsa.  We approached Mr. Bluestone about this, he stated that the school had wanted to teach Hidatsa to promote tradition and culture at the school.  This is fine with me, however, seeing as though we have no family attachments to the Hidatsa culture, we wished that our kids not learn this language.  Mr. Bluestone then stated that the school was making it manditory that all students take this class, and there was no way to take our kids out of the class.  He then stated that when our kids would get to the high school they would then have a choice in which classes that they take.  The school then relabeled the Hidatsa class, "Native Studies".  Our kids are still having to learn to speak Hidatsa in this class.  As I have said before, I really don't care if the school teaches Hidatsa or not, however it should be an elective.


So, in all I think that the title is fairly accurate for this post.   Our kids had no alternative to taking this class, so what would you call it.


I was born and raised in New Town, and continue to live here.  I graduated from NTHS, never learned a second language, and continued my way to a four year college.  So unless some new policies were inacted recently, you didn't need a second language.  I agree that finding adequate teachers to teach foreign languages might be a problem, but if the school district doesn't pursue getting these teachers, they aren't going to fall out of the sky.  From everything that I heard from my meeting with the school, it doesn't sound like anyone there is even trying to find a teacher for any other language.  This in it's own right is very close minded, and futher limits any options our kids have.  And the kids after all are the MOST IMPORTANT thing. 


I just don't see my kids finding any use for this language anywhere except here on the reservation.  How many people do you think speak Hidatsa in France, Germany, or even New York City?  I think it would be a better use of school funds to teach our children a more main stream second language, but that means the school would have to actually look for one of these teachers.  It shouldn't be up to the parents to go find the teachers.   I know it is possible, when I was in NTHS, they offered Spanish,French, German, and Japanese.  So don't say it isn't possible.  The school board just has to quit being so narrow minded and look to offer these options. 


 This has nothing to do with what race you are, which race I am.  THIS HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURE.


 

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Posted by NT alumni on Nov 3 2009 2:19PM
In Article: New Town schools forcing all kids to learn Hidatsa

First of all, I do not like the title of the subject. No one is forcing anyone to do anything. How would I know, I work there, and I graduated from there. First thing, in order to get into a 4 year college you need a second language on your high school transcript, whether that is german, spanish, or chinese. Doesn't matter. Second, there is a shortage of teachers that can speak a second language. So if there is a teacher out there that can speak dutch or whatever the language may be, contact the superintendent, Im sure he would be glad to talk to you. So all you you think its about race or forcing children to do whatever, you are so wrong. Take a step back and look at the picture once and awhile.

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Posted by prairie fire on Oct 27 2009 10:30AM
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If your skin brown kids go to school then THEY haVE TO know white language...how else woulkd they go? unless we have actuall teachers at home..wait! we do! they're called MOMS... DADs.. uncles aunties that all speak... there sthe talk... so go to school learn about educations.where to go in life after high school... learn and teach what your brain absorbed.use it.IF you feel like speaking your language!then do so.. this mandan hidasa n whomever ois OLDE!!!!  can we go on now? or do we drag this out to the next mellenia? Reply...


Posted by Yoda am I on Oct 27 2009 12:28AM
In Article: New Town schools forcing all kids to learn Hidatsa
I can assure you it is happening, I live in New Town.  I have kids in this school district.   When me and my wife questioned it, we were accused of being racist.  How laughable!  I have a lot of Native American friends here.   I have been told the same thing as the original poster stated.   The reason there are no links to this is that it hasn't been in a newspaper.   Unless you actually live here, you would have no idea what happens here, would you?  Personally I wish one of the newspapers would do some research into this.  A real paper(not the tribal paper, or the New Town news), with real employees that can be objective.  While they are at it, they should look into the qualifications of some of the school employees.   Anyway, enough rambling.  Reply...


Posted by neon on Oct 26 2009 8:03PM
In Article: New Town schools forcing all kids to learn Hidatsa
Do you know why there are no links to this story?   Because it never happened.  Wake up people. Reply...


Posted by Yoda am I on Oct 26 2009 7:27PM
In Article: New Town schools forcing all kids to learn Hidatsa
I could have swore there are three tribes that make up the Fort Berthold Reservation?  Hidatsa, Mandan, and Arikara are all there.  I feel that if a family that isn't Hidatsa, whether it be White, Mandan, Arikara, or whatever, should be able to say no to the school teaching this language to their kids.  If the school wants to teach it, well fine.  However it should be an elective.  This post has sure went from a school issue to a racial fight.  I thought we were getting beyond all this racism issue around the reservation.  I guess there will always be some shallow minded idiots that can't see beyond the differences between all of us.  School executives shouldn't push their personal beliefs into the schools.  What's next?  What happens if a school gets a sexist person as a superintendant.  Would they force all girls to take home ec.  Or force all boys to take auto mech.  What really is the difference?  Reply...


Posted by prairie fire on Oct 26 2009 10:09AM
In Article: New Town schools forcing all kids to learn Hidatsa
enny number of us Indians here in nodak or sodak have and always HAD the right to LET our kids speak the language...HOWEVER!  too many have lost it and now the new language of the dakota nations {ALL OF THEM!}  its cald  lazy black yap!... the new indian costumes for the decade? ghetto Bling!  its the latest fashions for not want to be Indians or Identity losers! and give it ups!... theres a new tribe an it requires that you the skin be ready to drop your pants a little below the entryway there in back..seeins' how we all of a sudden want to be backdoor frds.. so the names of the new TRIBES are   lowhangs,blingettes,the Blackinjunz.,,.the Notknowhow2spells tribe is even betters..LOL... they doe know how to say gas..they say ga.... stupid azzes/... all ppl so frgn proud of their ppl BUT DONT know HOW to knock that black attitude out of their so called proud baby having lazy skirt chasing drunk dopper kids! all you ...so stop trying to act like your so proud... IF YOPU were-YOU would be advocating to MAKE your kids PROUD to be indians... not ghetto blacks gangbagers carryinbg the syphliss home.. BTW! did this room know that ONE in SIX [6] teens tested,tested possitive for sphlyss? thats really getting bad ..unfortenetly,all the hub is here in columbus. truckers transitents all them droppin off their gack here!  if you all come thru OHIO / keep on sailing! lol... theres girls here that ask you straight up... so ya! indians unite! an get rid of the blkgack.. Reply...


Posted by prairie fire on Oct 26 2009 10:09AM
In Article: New Town schools forcing all kids to learn Hidatsa
enny number of us Indians here in nodak or sodak have and always HAD the right to LET our kids speak the language...HOWEVER!  too many have lost it and now the new language of the dakota nations {ALL OF THEM!}  its cald  lazy black yap!... the new indian costumes for the decade? ghetto Bling!  its the latest fashions for not want to be Indians or Identity losers! and give it ups!... theres a new tribe an it requires that you the skin be ready to drop your pants a little below the entryway there in back..seeins' how we all of a sudden want to be backdoor frds.. so the names of the new TRIBES are   lowhangs,blingettes,the Blackinjunz.,,.the Notknowhow2spells tribe is even betters..LOL... they doe know how to say gas..they say ga.... stupid azzes/... all ppl so frgn proud of their ppl BUT DONT know HOW to knock that black attitude out of their so called proud baby having lazy skirt chasing drunk dopper kids! all you ...so stop trying to act like your so proud... IF YOPU were-YOU would be advocating to MAKE your kids PROUD to be indians... not ghetto blacks gangbagers carryinbg the syphliss home.. BTW! did this room know that ONE in SIX [6] teens tested,tested possitive for sphlyss? thats really getting bad ..unfortenetly,all the hub is here in columbus. truckers transitents all them droppin off their gack here!  if you all come thru OHIO / keep on sailing! lol... theres girls here that ask you straight up... so ya! indians unite! an get rid of the blkgack.. Reply...


Posted by jim_helphrey on Oct 24 2009 11:44PM
In Article: New Town schools forcing all kids to learn Hidatsa
Hey travis_leejack_ss,  NewTown has always been on the rez.  Fort Berthold used to take up most of western N.D. a chunk of easter Montana and a piece of Wyoming.  How would New Town not be part of the rez when your parents were born.  Its in the middle of the rez!  As far as never forcing Indian people to learn English, holy smokes your a dumb _ss!  Its a none issue in New Town, so get over it!  As far as the other tribal languages go, their are very little if any people speaking Mandan, and teachers aren't jumping out of the wood work.  That goes for Arikara also.  Now who was here first? Think about it! Reply...


Posted by jim_helphrey on Oct 24 2009 11:44PM
In Article: New Town schools forcing all kids to learn Hidatsa
Hey travis_leejack_ss,  NewTown has always been on the rez.  Fort Berthold used to take up most of western N.D. a chunk of easter Montana and a piece of Wyoming.  How would New Town not be part of the rez when your parents were born.  Its in the middle of the rez!  As far as never forcing Indian people to learn English, holy smokes your a dumb _ss!  Its a none issue in New Town, so get over it!  As far as the other tribal languages go, their are very little if any people speaking Mandan, and teachers aren't jumping out of the wood work.  That goes for Arikara also.  Now who was here first? Think about it! Reply...


Posted by samsmith1954 on Oct 2 2009 10:47PM
In Article: New Town schools forcing all kids to learn Hidatsa

In studying the eight pages of information provided, I am amazed that so much negativity can be brought forward because a school district that exists on a reservation chooses to teach language and culture to their students.  The school district should be commended not made a target of ridicule.  Most people will tell you that the New Town school district is a good school district and that many people are proud of their children attending this school system.  I have three children who graduated from the New Town School District and are doing well.  They all participated in the language courses and it didn't seem to cause them any harm.  In fact, I believe it made them better students.   I have a student in the elementary school who happens to enjoy the language classes.  He is an A-B student who enjoys learning.  I am glad that he participates in this class. 


It is unfortunate that people like bservice would rather spend time making negative comments and bringing down our school system instead of focusing on the positives of the school system.  How often has bservice or his wife volunteered to serve on a parent committee or help with fundraising or other school activities?  I would venture to guess that he hasn't.  It might be better if beservice sent his children to a neighboring school district which would better suit his "negativeness".  I would also venture to guess that he is the one with the problem - - his kids are probably doing well in school and interacting well with the other students! 


 


 


 

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Posted by Curly on Sep 28 2009 10:37AM
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I don't think it should be manitory for young school children. The only language that should be a forced language is English and it's proper use and spelling.  Too many today can't splel  very well.  Me included.:) 


I think native language could be offered starting at the junior high level along with German, Spanish etc.  If parents want children to know any other language then english when they are elementary age, teach it to the children on your own.  The public schools can't do it all for parents. 

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Posted by 37rye on Sep 27 2009 3:37PM
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I get the biggest kick out of S.G..."As the knee jerks" this wingbat immediately jumps to the conclusion that Obama did something bad...
She sets and example for all wingbats to follow.

and of course, they do.

America...love it or leave it...We were here first....
How do you say that in Hidatsa? Reply...


Posted by mbutterfly on Sep 25 2009 6:52PM
In Article: New Town schools forcing all kids to learn Hidatsa
Han Mitakiapi waste. Nagi wowiha win ......
Hello my relatives Good Laughing spirit (Dakota)
I can understand the need to learn the language but if kids do not wish to learn the language it will be of no use. Dakota which I speak is a dying language. Trying to restore lost languages is something that people have been attempting to do in many states.

The three tribes have a wonderful museum and I feel the kids should have a choice on language with all the options for learning. Arkira,
Mandan, Dakota, Blackfoot. If you don't desire to learn something
it wont stick.

However, if we ever need spys for military translation it might be handy
remember the Navajo translators?

I am Nakota, Turtle Mountain but unregistered. My grandmother was a Lavelle and my father a Welch Reply...



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